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Female physical strength, especially in the upper body, is a sexual turn-on for many. And it is not just men who are turned on. Lots of women have sexual fantasies arising from the fact that they are physically stronger in the upper body than their husbands or their boyfriends. A man is supposed to have more upper body strength than a woman does so when a woman demonstrates that she has more upper body strength than a man does, that "defies gravity." It is the exception rather than the rule for a woman to have more upper body strength than a man and it is also the exception rather than the rule for a short woman to be large enough to have more upper body strength than a tall man who is usually skinny if that short, large woman is stronger than he is. I know from my own intimate experiences with some of my own girlfriends that a woman does not have to be taller than a man to be heavier and stronger than he is with a wider back than he has. I am a tall, very skinny guy. Because I am so skinny, most women, although they are shorter than I am, weigh more than I do and also have more upper body strength than I have. It is a fact that OPPOSITES ATTRACT!!! I once had a very short girlfriend much heavier and stronger than I am with a much wider back than I have. While I was with her, it always turned me on to know that she was so much bigger, heavier and stronger than I was that she could easily have wiped the floor with me even though I towered over her by twelve inches (A WHOLE FOOT!!!). I would never have wanted her to wipe the floor with me but it always turned me on just to know that she could easily have done it if she wanted to. She had large muscles but they did not look like a man's muscles. It also turned her on to be a short girl way bigger, heavier and stronger than a tall guy way taller than she is. The sexual attraction we had toward each other was mostly because of her being a short, large, strong female and me being a tall, small, weak male. I GOT REALLY HARD WHILE SHE GOT REALLY WET!!! Just like small women seek out large men for protection. Small weak men seek out stronger partners for protection. Its natural. As a small weak guy myself, I hope to one day find a woman who is taller, heavier and stronger than myself. I wouldnt have it any other way. AnonymousApr 23 2009 7:11am Thats where the problem lies though.As a smaller weakaer guy, plenty of women are bigger and stronger than myself. But they still dont want the role as the protector. So usually I have to seek out women who are far bigger and taller than average.Someone who is so strong they WANT the role as the protector. At 5`5,120 lbs my last girlfriend was 6`2 220 lbs. According to society standards such a pairing seemed unusual. But for us it was natural. AnonymousApr 23 2009 7:26am All the women have dated bench pressed over 250 lbs. Compared to my 65 lbs that is alot stronger. And stronger than most men. But a woman who is modertaly stronger and bench presses 120 or so, I could never get for a date. Because she is still looking to that man who benches 200 lbs for protection. AnonymousApr 23 2009 7:53am They say that obesity is a major health concern which I guess it is but I would also have to say that a large percentage of obese women are physically VERY STRONG!!! I met an extremely obese girl. There is no other way to describe her. She is not merely fat. SHE IS EXTREMELY OBESE!!! She is just about as obese as they come, with fat protruding everywhere. She is the type of girl who many people poke fun at. BUT SHE IS ALSO VERY, VERY STRONG!!! She is only 4'10" (barely above midget stature) but she weighs 257 pounds. AND SHE BENCH PRESSED 175 POUNDS FIFTEEN TIMES!!! That is forty pounds more than what I weigh. There are a whole lot of GUYS who can't do that!!! I am over six feet tall but as skinny as I am and as strong as she is, I know she can easily lift me over her head. A doctor on a radio program pointed out that obesity is a health concern but he also pointed out how and why being obese often means increased physical strength so it shouldn't be hard to believe that a short obese girl like her can easily lift a tall lanky guy like me over her head. Many tall, thin guys are sexually attracted to short, obese girls who are stronger than they are. A 4'10", 257-pound girl who can bench press 175 pounds fifteen times is way stronger than I am!!! While she and I were standing in front of each other, she flexed her arms for me while she was looking way up at me. As soon as I felt those big, massive biceps of hers, I IMMEDIATELY GOT A HUGE ERECTION!!! Compared to her boulder-like arms, my puny arms were like TWIGS!!! Without being ashamed, I looked way down at her and then I said to her: "I know you can take me." I was simply being honest because I know she would easily take me in a fight if I ever messed with her. When I know that a girl can take me, I am not going to pretend that she can't take me because she is "only a girl" while I am a guy. It doesn't matter that I am a male and she is a female. I KNOW SHE CAN TAKE ME!!! Don't underestimate the physical power of an obese female. Not ashamed to admit that a very short obese girl can take me.Apr 23 2009 2:48pm then she isnt obese AnonymousApr 23 2009 5:45pm In response to TALL SMALL GUY, the person who made the first comment in this poll: Opposites attract, but they do not stay together in the long run. Sorry about that! AnonymousApr 23 2009 8:36pm Lots of bigger, stronger women have long-term relationships with smaller, weaker men. It is a sexual turn-on for lots of bigger, stronger women to dominate their smaller, weaker men as well as for lots of smaller, weaker men to be dominated by their bigger, stronger women. There are tall women who are big and strong and there are short women who are big and strong. There are tall men who are small and weak and there are short men who are small and weak. Height doesn't matter. SIZE MATTERS!!! A smaller, weaker man is fully capable of putting his penis into a bigger, stronger woman's vagina. That's all that really matters!!! AnonymousApr 24 2009 11:06am My wife cant fit in my pants because the pant legs are too tight. She cant fit in my shirts because the sleeves are too tight and chest size too small. YOU GUESSED IT....she is bigger and stronger! Big deal though, she is still my beautiful wife and I am her faithful husband! AnonymousApr 25 2009 6:38am ^^ Dude Im glad you love your wife.However its not about one woman. It`s a most definite issue if a guy is weaker than most members of the opposite sex! It effects their sexual orientation to intimiate relationships. Some of us claim to like being weaker. However sexual fetishes doesnt equal happiness; and are only used to cope with what we are lacking. I know if you are 6ft tall and 220 lbs, its hard to imagine a world where the average woman(not one woman) is larger and stronger than yourself-- for some of us, its a reality! And this place is a sounding board for men just like us! Dont be so quick to judge.... docApr 26 2009 7:03am I know a 5'10" 200 lb. Woman who will only use males who are shorter and lighter than She is. She purchased Her husband at a slave auction many years ago and thereafter acquired a second male slave. Both of them are shorter and lighter than She, must obey Her orders, and submit to Her whip. I am also shorter than She and Wife loans me to Her from time to time. obedient husbandApr 27 2009 5:40pm statistics: 180 lb+ =5% of the female population is stronger men 170 to 180 lb=10% of the female population is stronger 160 lb man=15% of the female population is stronger 150 lb man=20% of the female population is stronger 140 lb man=25% of the female population is stronger 130 lb man = 30% of the female population is stronger 120 lb man = 35% of the female population is stronger 110 lb man = 40% of the femlale population is stronger 100 lb male=45% of the female population is stronger 90 lb male=50% of the female population is stronger 80 lb male=55% of the female population is stronger A 120 to 130 lb man would have a siginificant number of women who could kick his ass.same holds true for even a 140 lb guy. But to be weaker than the average woman, you would have to be a deathly 80 lbs statsApr 29 2009 6:35am I am a 170 lbs man and my wife that is 162 is about 50% stronger than me. My sister-in-law is stronger than my wife and the woman living next door to us the other day beat my wife in an armwrestling match. Three women close to me are stronger. I am not a weakling, stronger than several other men I know. Go figure! % weakerApr 30 2009 3:55am My husband is larger than me and weighs 50 lbs. more. We wrestle at least once a week, most of the time naked. With him being bigger puts him at a disadvantage. I usually win most times, fair. The times I fall behind, I go for his hanging balls. Is this fair to a man. I say yes, its a disadvantage having something so tender hanging there. So why shouldn't a women take advantage of it. We have wrestled infront of our families and most women agree its fair, but most men say its not. Being smaller I have more control over him, if I can't win that way. Go for the balls!!!!!!!! SandraApr 30 2009 5:38am There seems to be this ongoing universal belief that someone needs to be tall in order to be strong. HOGWASH!!! Perhaps too many people have been watching too many Hollywood films. I am living proof that a person's greater height does not mean they have greater physical strength. There are tall, weak, small-muscled, stringbean-skinny guys like me who are no match against short, strong, solidly-built heavyset girls like one girl in particular who easily outlifted me. I was easily outlifted by a girl who is under five feet. I AM OVER SIX FEET TALL!!! At a towering 6-foot-1 but a mere 130 pounds, I proved to be no match against a heavyset girl who is only 4-foot-11 but who weighs an intimidating 190 pounds!!! She weighs sixty pounds more than I weigh and her muscles are way bigger than my muscles are. That is why a very short girl like her easily outlifted a very tall guy like me in the clean-and-jerk. She did not need to be taller than I am to be bigger and stronger than I am. I am more than a foot taller than she is but my height over her did not stop her from easily outlifting me. In fact, she had that look of confidence on her face as she was looking way up at me while she held a barbell above her head that I failed to lift above my thighs. I am way taller than she is BUT SHE IS WAY BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN I AM!!! To all of the people in the world who were (or still are) anchored to their old beliefs that taller means stronger: SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE!!! Tall stringbean-skinny guy outlifted by short heavyset girlApr 30 2009 12:48pm % weaker how do you know your wife is stronger have you ever wrestled her? I am similar to you, my wife is much stronger than I. We have wrestled and she can actually cause me to pass out. Just having a penis is not being stronger. A male who knows. DaveMay 06 2009 4:54am somebody here says his wife dont fit into his trousers,-pants.my wife neither into mine.she is smaller but her thighs are so strong and thick,there was no way she could fit in it.only her calves muscles are almost sise of my thighs. derekMay 24 2009 4:53pm Dave, I have been lifting weights with my wife at the gym. She is about 50% stronger than me all over, legs are almost 100% stronger. She has the body type that gets muscular while mine is still slim. I am getting stronger from the work outs but my wife gains strength a lot quicker than me, her endurance is a lot better as well. We have been armwrestling since we met, I won when we met, had to fight with everything I had to win but I won but now my wife can give me a handicap with her hand just above the table and I still can't win. When my sister-in-law found out that we armwrestled and wrestled for fun she wanted to try armwrestle her sister, I thought this should be an easy win for my wife but the sister-in-law (she is bigger but not as fit as my wife) won comfortably. She won against me as well of course, very easy. Our neigbour, a woman our age, saw us armwrestling and wanted to have a go as well. She armwrestled my wife and won after a long match. I refused to have another woman beating me. Like other men that has posted I am kind of excited about testing my strength with a woman and loose but at the same time I want to win these matches, I like to show these women that man are stronger. And in general we are, but the women around me are just stronger. % weakerMay 27 2009 11:58pm 6/3/09 AnonymousJun 03 2009 7:40am Perhaps a woman's overall physical strength has to do with her breasts, her clitoris and her vagina!!! AnonymousAug 10 2009 3:16pm derek im the other one whos trousers are too tight for his wife.my wife stature is athletic.her upper body is very slim,compared to her lower body.she would fit twice into one of my t-shirts but her thighs are so huge she wears twice as wide trousers around them.but her waist is extremly thin.and its a pure muscles hard as rock she have on her thighs so as her calves are almost same size as my thighs,she was a gymnast.i never seen such a tremendously muscular legs on any human being around,nor a man nor a woman.i d say mostly women come closer to her muscularity rather than men.she can lift up the whole mountains of steel plates on legpress for endles reps without getting sweat.we even try to wrestle but im not even close to being match for her.she have weak looking very slim upper body but i was putting all my bodypower to get only over her hands.once she puts her legs into wrestling theoreticaly im dead in that moment.she can trap me between those thighs in the second,she is capable to apply endles pressure going upwards until she would realy kill even very big and strong man,she would choke him easily.there is no escape for one man from between her legs if she would realy want. AnonymousNov 25 2009 3:38pm To REAL Men, never let idiotic patriarchy stop you from enjoying the strength of good, strong women! an intelligent life formMar 23 2010 4:43pm I beleive the Australian perspective would probably be "Bonzer! She can give me a hand with this wall." an intelligent life formJun 17 2010 4:38pm I have never been in a fist fight with a female bodybuilder but I have wrestled 25 or 30 of them. I went through A phase where I hired professional female wrestlers from http/wb270.com a national list of female wrestlers who are mostly bodybuilders. Don't get me wrong this was not because I thought it would be an even contest. I expected to lose and I did. I experienced front rear side reverse and figur four head and body scissors, headlocks grapevines body pins full nelsons half nelsons sleeper holds and many other holds all of which I was submitted. I am 6'4" a d 220 lbs in good shape and I had absolutely no chance. I tried to wi. But really enjoyed experiencing the superior muscle and all the holds. They all respected my limits. Only one was too big. Renee Toney was 5'8" and 200 lbs with 21" biceps. She lifted 1000 lbs for 12 reps with her legs. The last couple minutes were reserved with me in a head scissors where I could see her face and she would force me to masturbate. If I refused she would smile and apply a bit more pressure. This final two minutes was always set up at the beginning of the match and they all smiled and agreed. WrestleDadNov 17 2010 12:17pm === 2Jul 08 2012 12:33am i too wrestled rene, and she beat the crap out of me. It was aturn on to be so controlled by a woman of such amazing strentgh. Also wrestled Karla Nelson and her at 5`10 190lbs, it was no contest. she too put me into a hold and allowed me to mastrabate! muscleloverJul 14 2013 6:12am 1 -1'May 27 2014 11:03am -1' 1May 31 2014 12:54pm JRfoes Really informative article.Much thanks again. FHckCloFenMiskKLjJul 19 2014 3:07am I am a slim build guy about 150. My wife is about 175 and about an inch taller. We used to play around wrestling when we first met wrestling and arm wrestling. She being a little bigger would give a hard time but I could beat her which she seemed to not really like but me being a bit stronger than her couldn't do much about it. When we did it led to great sex and I always controlled the love making. Making her do stuff she otherwise might not wanted to do. I was never mean to her at all and if she said no that was fine. After our marriage we settled down and on occasion would wrestle but not often, I don't think she liked me being on the winning side too much. But it did always lead to a great time in bed. I even would put her over my shoulder and carry her to the bedroom, which she got a kick out of. She would say one of these days I am going to be the lifter and you are gonna be over my shoulder! I replied sounds good to me! Which surprised her because she thought I was just kidding. One afternoon before Christmas I came upon some files she had saved in the computer. They dealt with female muscle and dominant wives. I was a little intrigued but didn't think to much about it other than getting her with a weight bench and some weights for Christmas. I thought it might be a nice surprise for her and hoped it wouldn't make her mad. One night we had a wrestling match and as usual I pinned her. We started to make love and I rolled her over so she was on top and she smiled as I put my legs around her. She thought I was joking with her but I said no let's do it this way. It must have really excited her because she was soon thrusting and moaning that this was fantastic. I agreed and told her we would have to try I again some time. At Christmas I told her to go to the garage that she had a present out there and to come back in and tell me what she thought. She came back in with a big smile and hugged me and said thanks I am going to get a lot of use out of what she called her best present! She started working out the next day. After a few months I got her a treadmill too. She would spent at least an hour or two 4 times a week in what she called her gym. She developed some biceps pretty quickly and lost a few pounds. She was down to 165 but starting to look on the buff side. WE began to wrestle more often and our matches became pretty competitive. I still had a slight edge, but she was really hard to pin now. She would usually roll me over and get on top now as we made love. She would put my hands above my head as she rode me and I must say I enjoyed her taking control. I would still throw her over my shoulder afterwards and carry her to the bedroom. I would stop at the mirror and tell her that her that she looked stronger than me. She would giggle and tell me it might be reversed one of these days. We didn't wrestle for a while due to me getting a broken ankle while hiking. I got along on crutches for awhile. She was continuing her work outs and once she gave be a piggy back ride up a flight of stairs. I didn't want to at first but she lifted me on her back and said no problem as she walked up the stairs I kissed her neck. She winked and said best Christmas present ever as she kissed me. After my ankle had healed I went to her gym when she went out shopping. She had about a 75 pounds on her bench and I lay down and managed about 8 reps before my arms were tired. She got back from the store and during her work out that night I pretended to get something from the garage and watched her lift the weight easily doing about 10 reps. I was amazed and watched her do some bicep curls. It was obvious that she was a lot stronger than me now and it turned me on. After she had finished and we were watching TV, I said we haven't wrestled in awhile, she said no I don't think it would be a good idea I don't want you to re injure your ankle. I said OK but when I go get it checked and if all is good could we? She said sure, but you just might end up over my shoulder this time and when you do I have a extra little surprise for you! We made love in the traditional way and it was great as I actually kissed her arm when we were finished. She put her head on my chest and drifted off to sleep. I went to the doctor and got the OK to resume normal activities and everything looked good. I told my wife all was good and she said we would have a match that night. After dinner and a little TV, she asked if I was ready to lose my first match and winked. We moved the furniture like we always did and stripped down to begin. She was on me quickly and I noticed she was a lot stronger than ever before. We wrestled for about 20 minutes and she had the upper hand for most of it. We took a short break she was dripping with perspiration as she wiped herself off. She looked incredibly sexy and strong. WE began again and it was obvious that I was just trying to survive. She put me in a bear hug and that was pretty much it I slid down her body to the carpet. She pinned my shoulders and did a double bicep pose. I said I give you are now the wrestling champion of the house. She bent down and whispered in my ear that she was so turned on that she wanted to take me right then, but she had a surprise for me and we had to go to the bedroom. I slowly got up as she came over to me and said I have been waiting a long time to do this. She bent down and fell across her shoulder. She easily carried me over to the mirror. She held me with one arm and flexed with the other. She said I have a feeling this won't be the last match that ends with you over my shoulder! I grinned and said I don't think so either. As she carried me back to the bedroom I said this is amazing I don't think I have ever had this much fun. She said the fun is just beginning! She laid me gently on the bed like I had done to her so many times. She pulled of my shorts and said she would be right back. She turned off the light and got back on the bed. She then turned me over on my stomach ad climbed behind me. She grabbed my hips and pulled me up on my knees and placed a pillow under me. I felt her fingers enter me with a sticky solution. Are you ready for my surprise my weak husband? I looked back and she smiled as she stroked her toy and made a bicep pop out as she entered me with it. I gasped as she began slowly getting me used to her c*ck. She asked if I was OK and I nodded and told her it felt really good. She trust in me for awhile before she came and when she touched me after a few strokes I did too. She pulled out and this time I laid on her chest as she held me, I asked her if we could do this again. She replied oh yes this is what we be doing a lot of from now on. andresJul 28 2014 10:25am gVEqXf Thanks so much for the blog.Really looking forward to read more. Fantastic. CWpxzbopuDbgcAug 05 2014 2:03pm lyGUOQ I was recommended this website by my cousin. I'm not sure whether this post is written by him as no one else know such detailed about my problem. You are wonderful! Thanks! iaRVhiBHApDcFnXMfSMDec 20 2014 11:36pm It's great if the woman in your life is physically strong. HappyJul 27 2015 6:57pm In meiner Schulklasse hatte ich ein Mädchen, die viel stärker war als ich und teilweise auch die anderen Jungs. In der Sportstunde hat sie meistens die Jungs geärgert. Sie hatte ja viel mehr Kraft. Sie hat mit uns gekämft und uns in allen möglichen Varianten hochgehoben und Griffe angewendet. Im nächsten Schuljahr, als wir in die 8. Klasse kamen, haben wir wieder neue Schüler auf die Schule bekommen. Das eine Mädchen, die dann in die 7. kam, war bestimmt einen halben Kopf größer als das aus meiner Klasse. Die beiden konnten sich von Anfang an nicht leider. Einmal trafen sie dann aufeinander und das Mädchen aus meiner Klasse wollte ihr dann zeigen wer das Sagen hat. Als ich die beiden dann sah, konnte ich es nicht fassen. Das andere Mädchen hatte so große Muskeln, ich sah daneben aus, wie ein kleiner Junge. Das Mädchen aus meiner Klasse sah auch aus, als hätte sie Geister gesehen. Sie hatte auch keine Chance gegen sie. Für mich war es unfassbar, wie leicht das jüngere Mädchen mit ihr fertig wurde. Und noch beeindruckener war es, wie sie das Mädchen hochgehoben hat, über ihre Schultern gelegt hat und mit ihr Runden gedreht hat. Sie hatte sie bestimmt 5 Minuten auf ihren Schultern, bis sie sie runter gelassen hat. Sie hat sie danach noch ein paar Mal hochgehoben. Das Mädchen aus meiner Klasse hat sich danach nach Möglichkeit sehr weit weg von ihr gehalten. Das war echt ein unglaubliches Erlebnis. ArnoNov 06 2015 11:05am Yeieo HdjdkslMay 03 2016 9:30am My girlfriend is both. Much taller and stronger and ripped with muscle and still is very feminine. She is however clearly the dominant and superior one in our relationship. It started out in the bedroom or with intimacy but after admitting she wanted more and pushing past those limits she now has total control of our relationship overall. She has role reversed in the way that she is not only the feminine side of it but she also took on the man's role or masculine side of it and I do all the domestic things. No she isn't feminizing me but she makes it clear that the heavy masculine roles are her's as well. Just lately she is pushing the boundaries of our roles and relationship. She towers over me as she is almost 7 feet barefooted... So me being exactly 4 feet tall I am down by her waist line and now look up to her belly button!! Yes we have that big of a gap. She never wore high heels before but after she grew tall enough to where the top of my head was below her belly button she told me adding more height doesn't matter anymore as I'm so short and tiny to her now people are already going to stare and comment. So of course she got the highest of heels. Almost 10 inches high! The top of my head before was about mid way of her crotch level. Now with the heels I stood looking directly into her mid thighs! Yes mid to lower thighs! I could easily walk through her legs I was that tiny!!! Dominant girlfriend May 03 2016 9:43am vHNGpw You made some really good points there. I checked on the net for more information about the issue and found most individuals will go along with your views on this site. MSOQaDFaXYOmcmQqxmAug 03 2016 9:15am "Been reading these polls for awhile about strong muscular bigger and Amazon women etc. Think most are very bogus myself and are women who jus love to run their mouth. Am a professional white male, 50 years old 5'10" 190, athletic not a bodybuilder tho. Am here by challenging any big strong muscular woman, bodybuilder, powerlifter, whatever, bigger the better, stronger the better. Challenge is to any female who will come meet me here in oklahoma, and literally use her full size, strength, muscle and power to lift me, crush me with full strength, lift, carry, throw me around the room like a rag doll, bodyslam etc, without regard to injury to me. Seriously using ALL her full size, power and muscle on me for 2 hours. No mercy asked, No limits, no restrictions on you to unleash ALL your power size and strength. will sign injury waiver as well or release of liabilities to you etc. Any women takers, all you have to do is contact me at sjsh99@lycos.com and put CHALLENGE in your subject line. Cash prize if you come to do this and claim it is 7500 dollars. Will make a nice cash prize if any really tough, big, strong or muscular women exist in real life besides these stupid polls. I am extemely serious. Lets see if any really huge big strong or muscular powerful women exist, or if they just talk talk talk and are really sissies in real life. And NO I will not fight back or anything else if any woman interested." Anyone know of any woman like that? Pass it on to her please. sjsh99Apr 06 2017 10:36am Hshsbdd. BsjdjddbvvSep 29 2017 9:49am I am 5' 9" and for most of my adult life have weighed about 137lbs. I may be an exception but in my experience women who are of a similar weight to me and are of a roughly similar standard of fitness as me, which is about average, are usually about as strong as me. I know several women who are stronger than me and who are well aware of the fact but I am not bothered by this. In fact I really admire women who are stronger than me and I have no difficulty in acknowledging their superior strength. 'ric.Jan 09 2018 11:42am ‘ric, how big or small are youre muscles? How much can you lift with one arm and with squads? I train in a gym since 4 years when i was 12 and have build hard muscles. SinaAug 28 2018 2:25pm Sina. The muscles on my right arm are about 12" and on my left arm are about 11½â€. I have never measured how much I can lift with one arm. I once took a physical test in a gym and was assessed as weak in the lower body and legs. I did a bit better in the upper body and arms but I was a bit weak overall. Apparently a couple of women did better than me proving stronger in both upper and lower body. With your gym training I suspect you are a lot stronger than me. 'ricSep 28 2018 3:30pm Ric, it‘s fascinating today. Average men have a biceps size between 10“ and 12“. So you have big muscles for an average men. Today most girls train in a gym and gets bigger and stronger muscles than most men. Compared with girls your muscles are small! SinaOct 27 2018 2:03am Sina. You say you train in a gym. Do you consider me stronger, weaker or about as strong as you. 'ricOct 30 2018 2:27pm Ric, if i read your posts above i’m sorry but you weig less than me and your muscles are smaller than mine. With my experience to other men with similar size to you i would say you are weaker than me by far. Today many girls train in a gym for strength and muscle gain! They have really much potential but only few men train in a gym and most of them only to stay at their fitness level. SinaOct 30 2018 6:30pm Ric, i hope you are not embarrassed! Most men don’t admit that they are not so strong like a girl. But the gap between the sexes was closed some years ago and barely some men are interested in sport. Therefore it’s become normal that girls often stronger than men! In my sport class only girls train and my sport teacher is a women too! SinaOct 30 2018 6:51pm Sina. If as you say girls are often stronger than men do you think that girls should be allowed to compete against men in sports. If so which sports? Would you yourself like to be given an opportunity to compete against men. If so which sports would you choose? 'ric.Oct 31 2018 11:55am Ric, i wish this is possible but i have no easy answer to your question. In some of discipline girls keep up to men like running, sprinnting, marathon and so on but in raw strength men are stronger if they well trained. If a well trained girl compared with an not well trained or even untrained man it is propable that the girl will have better performance than men. This includes strength training. If I compare myself with an untrained or not well trained men i‘m mostly stronger. This means the men fight and i need some time and strength to defeat them or if he is weak i can easily squeeze him to a wall and pin him during a competition. But still some well trained men exist and they are really strong. Unfortunately they become less! I‘m well trained for strength in a gym and got much more strength and larger muscles than the average untrained girl. Many men today are little stronger than a girl. Some men twice as strong than a girl (this was normal) and less men are clear stronger! Compared with this example i can compete with the less stronger men but it would be hard for me! But this means too, i‘m stronger than the average men and much stronger than a girl or the little stronger men. But a competition between a well trained girl and untrained man is not fair! What do you think? Where you would group yourself? SinaOct 31 2018 4:28pm Sina A well balanced reply. You have certainly put much thought into it. As you say there is no easy answer. You ask me how I would group myself. I am certainly untrained and you have already assessed me from the information given as being weaker than you by far. I can’t argue with that. You say that if a man is weak you can easily squeeze him to a wall and pin him during a competition. Going by your assessment it seems as though you could do that to me. But, as you say I don’t think a competition between a well trained girl and an untrained man is fair. However, if both are well trained and of similar weight but the man proves weaker than the girl that could be fair. 'ricNov 01 2018 4:40am Ric, yes it would be fair to compare well trained women and men. But in a competition between women and men, the men still have a little advantage by raw strength. But the women can more than compesate it by technique. Do you made the experience in your circle that many more girls today train in a gym than early? SinaNov 01 2018 5:49am Sina. I don’t use a gym so I am not sure whether more girls train than in the past. However, there is a gym near me and in good weather the members train outdoors and there seems to be more girls training than men. It is fashionable these days to belong to a gym but according to a fairly recent survey only a small proportion of paid up members actually use them. The most popular way of keeping fit where I live is cycling. At weekends droves of men and girls take to their bicycles and the countryside is full of them. Some are very fast. I keep fit by walking. I walk fast and have done up to 14 miles at one go but although I am quite fit I am not particularly strong. 'ricNov 01 2018 2:50pm Ric, many girls cycling additional to their training in the gym often for warmup too! Finden Sie auch, dass viele Mädchen im Vergleich zu den meisten Männern stämmig aussehen? You should observe it. What answer the girls in your circle to the question what they do for sport? Many men are members in a gym but they don’t use it. Mostly girls use their membership or they wil cancel it. SinaNov 01 2018 3:08pm Sina. I think more girls use the gym than men. I have translated your German into English and it reads “You will also find that many girls look stocky compared to most men.†I agree that more girls use the gym than men and there are an increasing number of strong looking girls. Do you think there will come a time when the average girl is stronger than the average man? The girls in my circle do various sports including dancing and ballet classes. I am away for a few days now but I will respond when I get back. I don’t have a laptop. 'ricNov 02 2018 2:39am Ric, sorry yesterday i was a little tired! If it will be considered that many average girls made sport in a gym and men doesn’t i think yes. In this case the average girl will be stronger than the average men. You told, some of your female friends do ballet, you should observe them. Maybe you will see that the ballet girls are really strong. For some ballet figures they need lot of strength and many ballet girls train for strength too. The focus in sport can be very differently but often the base is strength. Have a nice weekend! SinaNov 02 2018 5:50am Sina I know you train in a gym but what sports do you participate in? When you talked earlier about squeezing a weak man to a wall and pinning him in a competition this suggests you might be into martial arts of some kind. 'ricNov 05 2018 11:57am I have do many years jiu-jitsu and karate. But today i do only karate as compensation for weight training. Sometimes i do wrestling, also mixed wrestling. I noticed that it‘s often much easier to beat men. SinaNov 05 2018 12:41pm Sina If I was ever to be matched against you in a wrestling contest what do you think would be the result? Also are there any girls of my weight in your gym class who could beat me at wrestling? 'ricNov 05 2018 1:51pm I think if you have no fight experience i will pin you in seconds! The girls in my gym in your weight range do the same. If you have wrestling experience they it need a little more time, a few seconds. But the girls and me too turn down a gear. SinaNov 05 2018 3:08pm Sina. In view of the fact you and the girls in your gym could pin me in a few seconds even if I was experienced and you were all turned down a gear how would you rate me?... physically average man, physically below average man physically weak man or weakling? Please be honest. I won’t be embarrassed. If at any time you feel you want to end this discussion just let me know. So far it's ok by me. 'ric.Nov 05 2018 11:00pm Ric, in comparson with other men you are not a weak men. But most untrained men are weak against a well trained girl! Do you observed girls in your circle what do you have seen and how do you feel then? Doy feel like a weakling? SinaNov 06 2018 4:41am Sina. Sina. In my circle there seems to be an increasing number of strong, fit girls with physiques that put mine to shame. Therefore when I compare myself with other men I do not feel like a weakling but when I compare myself with some of today’s girls I do feel like a weakling. As you say you and the girls at your gym could all beat me at wrestling in seconds even if I had wrestling experience. You could no doubt all beat me at boxing as well. Therefore I must consider myself rated a weakling when compared to girls. What do you think? 'ricNov 06 2018 9:55am Ric, compared with me or other well trained girls you are weak. You wrote that you are not bothered by stronger girls. Or does it scares you a little bit if you see a girl in front of you with ripped muscels? I had a funny experience with a good male friend. He live far away and i visited him for a weekend. I had forgotton to take a nightgown and he offert me he can give me an old worn out t-shirt. I put it on and he stare to my arms and shoulders when i wore his t-shirt. It was a little narrow and the short sleeves were tight and my bicep was obviously. when i put my hair back i could see how he becomes big eyes. It was a great feeling but this evening he didn‘t dare to talk with me about this. SinaNov 06 2018 11:26am Sina. It is true that I am not bothered by stronger girls with ripped muscles. Compared with average girls they often look great as long as they don’t overdo it when the muscles start to look puffy rather than toned. The only time I would be scared of a strong ripped girl is if she were to challenge me to wrestle or fight. It hasn’t happened yet but some girls get a thrill out of beating a man and for me the thought conjures up a nightmare of me writhing on the floor and screaming at the hands of such a girl. 'ricNov 06 2018 1:53pm Then you wouldn't like what you see on me. I love the bigger, the better! Anyway, I think most girls will use their strength reasonable. But you should not annoy or irritate a strong girl. Guys who have annoyed me too much had nothing left to laugh afterwards! SinaNov 06 2018 2:11pm Ric, I hope I have not shocked you with my statement! Currently I am not so big i want to go for! SinaNov 07 2018 7:48am Sina. You said earlier that if you were to wrestle me you would pin me in seconds. I am sure some strong girls would have more fun prolonging the contest and putting a weak man through a torturous ordeal before submitting him. 'ricNov 07 2018 8:09am Ric, we talked about what i could do, not what i want to do if we have a wrestling match! However, both should have fun. A few weeks ago i have a arm wrestling match with a guy and i moved his hand slowly by pure strength to the table although he becomes noticeble tired. His friend said i couldn‘t beat him because he is stronger and i need so long to beat the first guy. Ok i think, we can try it! We start the arm wrestling match and i wait 10 seconds but he was unable to move my arm. Then i beat his hand down in less than 10 seconds. The first guy had fun, the second one was embarrassing! For me the first match was ok, he asked me if it is possible to show him the strength of a female bodybuilder and i would do it for him. The second was funny to see this guy defeat and he couldn’t do anything against this! It could be that the first guy was weak, but the second guy was a weakling! SinaNov 07 2018 8:58am Sina. I was once in a wrestling contest with a girl and lost. I was 17 at the time and was the epitome of the puny youth. I was 5’ 7†and weighed 114 lbs. The girl was our neighbours’ 14 year old daughter, Jan. She was a tomboy and good at sport. She wasn’t quite as tall as me but she was of a heftier build. She reckoned she was stronger than me and on one occasion took me on in a back yard type wrestling contest. She was right she was stronger and quicker than me and beat me with ease in front of her two brothers and a couple of female school friends. I didn’t want to take her on but didn’t want to be called ‘chicken’. RicNov 07 2018 9:58am Yes Ric, this can happen in pre-pubertal times. How knows who has spurred her to do that. When i was younger i was sometimes in trouble with some boys and earlier they were stronger than me. But sometime i start training in gym and i got quickly strength. After one year i could fight back if a boy would to beat me. After a couple of years i noticed that i become stronger than most guys and i think, in the first time periode, the boys had told to each other that they shouln‘t fight with me. Later they could see that i have strong muscles. But i have to admit i‘m not an angel! SinaNov 07 2018 10:14am Sina . You said we talked about what you could do to me if you and I were involved in a wrestling match not what you wanted to do to me. What would you want to do? Please be frank. 'ricNov 07 2018 12:31pm I wrote it! I would do what you ask me to do by which we have both fun with it! This means wrestling, arm wrestling, strength testing, muscle comparson, muscle worshipping and so on... Sina Nov 07 2018 12:48pm Sina I would choose wrestling, arm wrestling strength testing and muscle comparison. It would be awesome to discover how much weaker I am compared to you. You would no doubt beat me in all four contests but it would be a great experience for me to have a go. It would be good if one of your gym girls were to be a referee and judge and to prevent me from being destroyed in the wrestling. 'ricNov 07 2018 2:26pm Ric, imagine we were in my gym in a boxing ring for a wrestling match. Some well trained girls stands around the arena and observe us. Imaginize, some of this girls would like to test their strength against you and you know, all of these girls are stronger than you. You are to weak to have a chance. What do you would do? SinaNov 07 2018 3:23pm Sina. Under the circumstances I would choose to wrestle a girl of similar weight to me. Even then I would l be scared and would probably suffer last minute nerves. One of your well trained girls may have to haul me into the ring. Even if my opponent was turned down a gear there is no doubt I wouldn’t stand a chance. It would be a ‘no contest’ situation. After witnessing a weak male writhing and screaming at the hands of a strong girl the girls watching wouldn’t consider it worth taking me on. Wrestling a girl and being beaten by a girl in front of girls and probably with a female referee would be awesome. 'ricNov 07 2018 11:16pm Ric, if you want to wrestle against a girl, your wight would be a little difficult. It‘s funny to made strength test with weaker men for us girls! We don’t need to wrestle! We can do a little workout either you or the girl! SinaNov 08 2018 7:27am Sina. There is a statistics chart above and according to that at my weight about 27% ( just over a quarter) of the female population would be stronger than me. Would you say that was about right or would you say a higher or a lower percentage was more appropriate in my case? 'ricNov 08 2018 9:36am From which date is this statistic? But I‘m not sure! In my gym i want to claim that 85% of females are stronger than you. I think outside maybe 30 to 40% weight more than you! But less weight doesn‘t mean less strong! SinaNov 08 2018 10:01am Sina. I tend to agree with you. I don’t know where this statistic chart originated from. Someone could have made it up but I think a lot of statistics these days don’t tell the full story. Regarding wrestling against a girl and my weight being a little difficult I take it that all the girls in your gym are heavier than me. I don’t think I need to undergo any tests with the girls in your gym. I suspect they are all stronger than me. Please let me know if I am taking up too much of your time with this discussion. 'ricNov 08 2018 10:50am Ric, no problem, i‘m fascinated in this things. When I start with this training i was an average young girl and weaker then most guys. When i train first times i note that i have fun and it‘s must be cool to become stronger than boys. I started with bodybuilding a couple of years ago and i get quickly more and more strength. Sometime i note during a sport lesson i‘m able to carry more than most guys. Since this day i work out like i‘m crazy to get more muscle and more strength. Meanwhile i‘m much stronger than most men! SinaNov 08 2018 11:45am Another guy on this forum told he has collected the biceps size of some female bodybuilder and if he start with the first 100 entries he was on position 67 compared his biceps to female and strength he was on position 97. He is hardly stronger than the smallest female bodybuilder. SinaNov 08 2018 11:57am Sina I am glad you are fascinated by this discussion; so am I. You are obviously very strong. I think you are awesome. You say that you want to claim that in your gym 85% of females are stronger than me. By the sound of things I wouldn’t argue with that. How do you and the girls in your gym feel about a man like me who is obviously much weaker than them? Are they amused? Are they contemptuous? What would they think of me? Don’t pull you punches. Considering men are supposed to be stronger than women I am really interested to know. 'ricNov 08 2018 1:11pm Normaly me and the other girls doesn‘t care if men are weaker. But if a guy wants to be fighting or he gazes always we would made a joke with him. why do you think men should supposed that they are stronger then girls? This is an obsolete view to the world! SinaNov 08 2018 1:46pm Sina. I think it is generally accepted that the average man is stronger than the average woman. But from my observation the average man is bigger than the average woman so that could go some way to account for the extra strength. But as I said in my original statement I have always found that women who are of a similar weight to me and are of a similar standard of fitness as me (which is about average )are usually about as strong as me and some are stronger. So considering my weight I am probably about as strong as the average woman. I am a bit taller than the average woman but that doesn’t make any difference. 'ricNov 08 2018 2:17pm Yes but exact this is exciting! Do you read the story above i wrote about a friend and me? SinaNov 08 2018 11:07pm Sina. Yes I did read the story about a friend and you. I’m impressed. As it appears you don’t consider men stronger than girls if I were to take up wrestling who would I be best matched against average man or average girl? RicNov 09 2018 12:16am I think an average man should be the better opportunity. But which type of average girl do you mean? Do you have a similar story with a girl in your circle you had seen she has muscles? SinaNov 09 2018 5:13am Sina. I think I worded the question badly. Would I best be matched against an untrained man of my weight and standard of fitness or an untrained girl of my weight and standard of fitness or would I be equally matched against either knowing what you have read about me? I haven’t got any particular girl in mind. Also do you think there will come a time when girls will be able to wrestle on men’s teams so that in inter club competitions a man could find himself matched against a girl of the same weight category.? 'ricNov 09 2018 6:32am Sina. To clarify I am not talking about wrestling in schools and high schools. 'ricNov 09 2018 6:34am Ric, that could already be done, but probably will not be done yet. Why do you not mean school or high schools? SinaNov 09 2018 9:29am Sina. Because in US schools girls are already wrestling boys. I am referring more to adults. You say it's often easier to beat men and I expect some of your gym girls feel the same so I cannot see why girls cannot compete against men. If I were to take up wrestling I can think of no good reason why I shouldn’t be matched against a girl of my weight class. Seeing some girls today I think they would present more of a challenge than a man. Would you agree? I would like to be matched against a girl to see how I would get on. 'ric.Nov 09 2018 9:56am Ric, don‘t know why it is not allowed to fight girls against men. In many cases girls would win because they have more endurance and this is the reason why men lost. Yes, i completely agree with you! Wrestle a girl will be a heavy challenge for you but it will bring you forward. SinaNov 09 2018 12:31pm Sina I think many male wrestlers would not want to wrestle girls because they will be frightened of losing to a girl and being held to ridicule. They would feel it would destroy their macho image. But to get over this there could be three categories of wrestling:- men’s wrestling, women’s wrestling and ‘all comers’ wrestling which would be open to both men and women so one could find oneself competing against males and females. I would join the ‘all comers’ category so that I could be competing against a man one minute and a girl the next. As I said before, I can see no good reason why I shouldn’t be matched against a girl of my weight class. I admire women who are stronger than me. I may be ridiculed by some men but I think I would be respected by the girls even when they beat me. I am sure there must be some men who would be prepared to join the ‘all comers’ category. I believe you find men prepared to wrestle you. RicNov 09 2018 1:35pm Yea Ric, you’re right. Many men wouldn’t admit that girls can be similar strong than they self and certainly not stronger! This men are the real weaklings especially if they are really weaker tha the girl. I think you are strong. You are strong because you accept that girls could be stronger than you. It's great! SinaNov 09 2018 2:21pm Ric, well trained men still exist and these men are often very strong! They can easily beat me! But today most men in lower good shape! SinaNov 09 2018 2:25pm Sina. I am really enjoying this discussion with you. Not only are you physically very strong but you are intelligent and have a gracious attitude towards men who are weaker than you. I am sure all the girls in your gym are the same. I am away for part of this weekend so I may not respond for a short while. RicNov 09 2018 2:52pm Thank you Ric! Everybody is different! But in many cases the girls are nice with the guys. But sometimes the one or other guy earnt a little blow. Have a nice weekend Ric. SinaNov 10 2018 3:37pm Sina. Do you participate in bodybuilding competitions? Many women and men do. 'ricNov 12 2018 8:55am ric, yes i do but so far only in my region. I‘m not ready yet! But i working for. I hope in the next two years i have the mass and definition! SinaNov 12 2018 11:26am Sina. It must take much hard work and dedication to do what you are doing. I couldn’t have that sort of commitment. I will just have to accept that I am going to be even weaker than you than I am already. I dread to think what would happen to me if I had to wrestle you in two years time. Good luck to you anyway. 'ricNov 12 2018 12:48pm Ric, i would enjoy it but i would handle you with care. I already experience it today that men are weaker than me. Sometimes in a wrestling with a guy i feel how they fight to overcome my strength but most of them have no chance! You can be soothe, you are not the only man who is weaker than girls. SinaNov 12 2018 11:54pm Sina. Have you ever been involved in boxing? 'ric.Nov 13 2018 1:32pm Only for fun Ric! Sometimes! But it doesn’t work fine with my favorite sport. SinaNov 13 2018 2:11pm Sina. If you were to take me on at wrestling you would no doubt beat me but how would you prefer to win? Would you get the biggest kick out of pinning me or making me submit?. 'ricNov 13 2018 2:33pm Ric, if i pin you i had subjected you! But if i have the choice i want show you who is stronger! I would enjoy it if your weak muscles opposing against my strong muscles and you will use all your strength but i‘m stronger! I would love it to train with you and see how hard it is for you to lift small weights during you see the wights i lift but they are much to heavy for you. Sorry for my directness. SinaNov 13 2018 3:33pm Sina Would you prefer to train with me and show how weak I was in front of girls and teenage boys to demonstrate girls’ physical superiority over men? 'ricNov 14 2018 1:28pm Ric, sorry for my openness but yes, sometimes i imagine this. But in reality i didn’t these things! At least not directly with men! Normally, I only enjoy the admiring glances! But that's fun as well! SinaNov 15 2018 3:43am Sina. When you wrestle a man does the contest take place in a ring with a referee? If so is the referee usually a woman (your sports teacher) and when you win does the referee raise your arm in victory? If this is the case it must give you a big buzz. I can imagine the defeated man being very embarrassed under such circumstances. 'ricNov 15 2018 2:02pm Ric, that would be embarrassing for most men! Do you like the idea of ​​being weaker then a woman? SinaNov 15 2018 9:06pm Sina. I don’t particularly like being weaker than a woman. It would be more accurate for me to say that I don’t mind being weaker than a woman. If I am weaker than a woman it doesn’t bother me and I suspect I am weaker than many women. I wouldn’t work out in a gym to become stronger. If a woman beat me at wrestling I would certainly feel her inferior. 'ric.Nov 16 2018 4:22pm Ric, i enjoy it to be stronger than men. Especially if i‘m stronger than men they couldn‘t believe that they could be weaker than a girl. SinaNov 17 2018 10:01pm Sina. If I decided to work out in a gym to improve my physical strength would I have more of an incentive to try harder if I had a female trainer rather than a male trainer? Obviously both would be physically much stronger than me. Which would you recommend for me? 'ric.Nov 18 2018 9:35am Ric, this depends on which form of training your trainer preferred! If your trainer favor fitness training but you want to get more strength and muscle mass you should choose another trainer. Male or female is not important but most men has a problem if a girl is stronger than they are! SinaNov 19 2018 12:42pm Sina. I think I would go for the trainer I considered the best for my needs; maybe on recommendation. I wouldn’t have a problem if that trainer was a female who was stronger than me. As I said originally I am not bothered by women who are stronger than me. However, with a female trainer, I would be in a fascinating situation where I, a comparatively weak man, would be under the control of a physically much stronger woman. I think I would be ok with that. 'ricNov 19 2018 2:08pm Ric, your attitude made you to a strong man! You accept that women can be stronger and it’s ok for you! I admire that! For a women it is fascinating to train with a weaker man who will be ok with this difference! SinaNov 21 2018 8:50am Sina. Thank you for your last comment. I think some women would taunt and tease a man who was weaker than them. I rather like the idea of having a female personal trainer who is much stronger than me. I think it would give me more of an incentive to try harder to reduce the strength gap. As you say I think a female personal trainer would be fascinated at training a man who is ok with being weaker than her. I would probably prove a bit submissive under the instructions of such a woman. If I had a male trainer it would be too easy just to accept he would be stronger than me and I probably wouldn’t try so hard. Sina. Let me know if you are still ok with our discussion. 'ricNov 21 2018 1:48pm Ric, sometimes men make fun of women! I also make fun over these men. Some men think they are much stronger than all women and i love to show them that they are a lot weaker than me an i have much more endurance. Some guy needs a break after an arm wrestling match. I can arm wrestle many guys in a row without a long break. I really like this conversation with you! SinaNov 22 2018 10:02am Sina. I am really enjoying this discussion. You are obviously very strong and very fit. If I were to be matched against you in a wrestling contest I wouldn’t have a chance however hard I tried. You said earlier what you could do if you and I were to wrestle but not what you would want to do. What would you want to do in a wrestling contest against me? Don’t pull you punches I would really like to know. 'ricNov 22 2018 2:33pm Sina, Sorry. I think we have already covered that question. You asked me earlier if I liked the idea of being weaker than a woman. The more I think about it the more it appeals to me. I fully accept that I am weaker than many women and, because you don’t belittle me, I am quite content to be your physical inferior. 'ric.Nov 22 2018 3:14pm No problem Ric. I have to apologize, last week i have some actions and the time runs away. To your question i want ask you too we talked about in the past! If you have stronger women in you friend circle, do you ask them to help you for things you are to weak for? Is it a theme in a discusion between you and these womens? SinaNov 24 2018 9:47am Sina. In my friend circle I can manage without the help of stronger women and, currently, there is only one woman who I reckon is stronger than me and I haven’t seen her for a while. However, when I left school I worked on a farm for a while and a girl who worked on a neighbouring farm was much stronger than me. I once was driving a tractor pulling a plough and turned too sharply. The plough fell on its side and I couldn’t lift it back into position. Barbara saw it happen and came over to help. Before I could do anything she just lifted it back into position. She just said “ if you want any help at any time just give me a call.†Then there was another time when a young woman couldn’t start her car. She asked me if I could give it a push to bump start it. She sat in the driver’s seat and I pushed but I couldn’t push it fast enough. She said it would be better if I sat in the driver’s seat and she pushed. She pushed it faster than me and, with me working the controls, it started. She had assessed me as weaker than her and she was right. 'ric.Nov 24 2018 2:51pm I think it’s great how you are ok with that you are weaker than many women! Sometimes i think i have the same experience with weaker men but the most men can’t accept if they are weaker. They wouldn’t believe that a girl could be stronger. Some of this men have a big mouth but they will become very small if they note that they have no chance and a girl can be realy stronger! SinaNov 26 2018 3:43pm Sina. I am ok with being weaker than many women because there is no use worrying about something I can do little about. I could work out in a gym regularly but I would still be weaker than a large number of women and even teenage girls who continue to work out. I would never catch them up and in any case I couldn’t be that dedicated. I fully accept that I am a weak male to many women and I could never feel macho in the presence of a woman who had beaten me at wrestling. However, I would be alright about being matched against a woman in a wrestling contest and I think I could cope with being beaten. It would be a great experience and I would be interested to see how I would get on. I think it would help if I thought of my opponent as a wrestler rather than a woman. 'ricNov 27 2018 10:33am Ric, i talked with a friend about you. He can’t believe that a man is ok with it to be weaker than a women. He admires my muscles and want‘s to know how strong i am. We had a wrestling match and i could beat him really easy. Now he knows that he is weaker than me and he is now scared of me and avoid me! How would you treat him? SinaDec 03 2018 11:15pm Sina, This is his problem not yours. He has two choices. Either he joins a gym and undergoes intensive fitness and weight training to build himself up or he does what I have done and that is just to accept that there are many women stronger than he is. This is a fact of life. However hard he trains there will always be women somewhere in the world who will be stronger than him. If he is scared of you all you can do is to reassure him you are not a threat to him. I have no problem with women who are stronger than me provided they don’t see fit to beat me up. RicDec 05 2018 9:02am Ric, of course it‘s his problem but he had seen that my muscles larger and defined compared to his. I think his muscles are approximately small like yours. He looks cute when he tried to beat me and i gave him a chance. But after a short time i offered him he should use his second arm for help but he still wasn‘t able to beat me. Than i squezed his hands simply down to the table. He was embrassed and jumps up and run away. This i find is pity! SinaDec 05 2018 4:00pm Sina. Some men can’t cope with a woman being stronger than them and I don’t know what can be done about it. You say the guy’s muscles were small like mine. Knowing what you have read about me would you rate me as weaker, stronger or about the same as him? 'ricDec 06 2018 9:45am Ric, i think you’re about the same. It‘s really hard to say because each human is individual. But if a guy doesn’t train, he should know that he is probably weaker than a women who train for strength. Especially if she looks like powerhouse! Would you challenge a woman if she looks much stronger than you? SinaDec 06 2018 11:34am Sina. I wouldn’t challenge a woman if I thought she was stronger than me. I think it would be more likely that a strong woman would challenge me. In such a case I think I would have to accept. Bearing in mind that I am about as weak as the guy you defeated so easily what do you think a woman of similar strength as you would do to me in a wrestling contest? Are there women who, to impress their friends, get quite brutal when fighting a weaker man? 'ricDec 06 2018 2:35pm Imagine, in winter, you are outside, a young woman sits opposite you and annoys you. She has a thick jacket like you. She does not stop teasing you and you challenge her. You go to a heated room. When she takes off her jacket you see she is pretty bulky and probably stronger than you. What would you do now? SinaDec 07 2018 6:39am Sina It sounds like the young woman has engineered a situation for the sole purpose of fighting me. She must have heard that I was weak and was teasing me to get me to challenge her. For a woman to annoy and tease me I would say she was quite aggressive and it would be a fight she was wanting rather than an arm wrestle or weight lifting contest. I can think of no other reason. Having made the challenge I don’t think I would be in a position to back down without losing face. When seeing her in the heated room I would be scared but I would go ahead. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had tipped off some of her friends to come and watch. I suspect such a woman would get great pleasure out of applying painful holds and making me scream before finally submitting me. My attitude would be let’s do it and get it over with. 'ricDec 08 2018 5:01am Ric, why do you think she should engineered such situation? But you are right, a women who knows, that she is stronger is really more aggressive but in only few cases she want to beat a guy badly. In some cases guys will be deserve to beating! Some men are bad with others! SinaDec 10 2018 7:46am Sina, I cannot think of any other reason as to why she would want to annoy me or tease me. If I were to challenge her I would go through with it but under normal circumstances if a young women annoyed me or teased me I think I would just walk away especially if I didn't know she was strong. In other words if I couldn't see any reason for her behaviour I would just avoid her. RicDec 11 2018 3:19pm Hey Ric, i hope your days before Christmas are little more quiet than my. Sorry for the long absence! I could imaginize, that some women explore they‘re new strength! If you read some other polls you could think this. What‘s your opinion about this? SinaDec 16 2018 8:22am Sina. On one site concerning girls’ biceps there are girls as young as thirteen who have bigger biceps than me when I was seventeen. If true, most of those girls could have slaughtered me at wrestling when I was in my late teens. As I said before when I was seventeen a fourteen year old girl beat me at wrestling and there is no doubt she could have beaten me at boxing. She was stronger and quicker than me.I think women and girls get a kick out of proving themselves stronger than men. RicDec 17 2018 2:24pm Ric, today you can see it more and more. Some girls do sport who required strength and some girls train with wights. I many cases these girls become strong and bigger muscles. Between 12 and 14 inches is no deal today. Remember, the average size for men is between 11 and 12 inches! I working for build muscles and strength since four years. Today i‘m bigger and stronger than many guys. The first time when i notice that i become stronger i have done games with some guys too. SinaDec 17 2018 3:48pm Sina, How old is the youngest girl you know who could probably beat me at wrestling? It seems to me that there are an increasing number of young girls who are into body building and strength training. RicDec 19 2018 8:23am Ric, it’s hard to say but i think between 12 and 14 she could be strong as you maybe stronger if she is in good shape and fit. In my gym there are more girls pumping iron than guys. SinaDec 19 2018 12:46pm U5vCwo Looking forward to reading more. Great blog.Really looking forward to read more. YQNsVxOBuDDec 20 2018 2:35pm Sina. It is scary to think I could get beaten at wrestling by a girl as young as twelve. I’m trying to imagine what it must be like for an adult male to be beaten by a twelve year old girl at wrestling in front of her mother who would probably have to be present due to the girl’s tender age. The girl’s mother would obviously be proud of her daughter but what would she think of the man? Have you ever come across such a situation? We might have to change site before long because this one could soon be full. RicDec 20 2018 11:46pm Ric, probably the young girl has her mother as role model. This means they both know that men today often weaker than women and sometimes girls too. When I was 14 two older guys, maybe 20, want to beat up my old boyfriend. I beaten them both up. Since this time i know that men are not so strong they think they are! Today i have with one or other friend sometimes a wrestle session. To beginn often i was surprised how weak most men are. Meanwhile it‘s normal for me that men couldn‘t defense against me! I know this and mostly i‘m carefull with men! SinaDec 21 2018 2:19am Sina. Are there girls who take on men at boxing? I am sure the fourteen year old girl who beat me at wrestling could also have beaten me at boxing. This is controversial because many people consider it wrong for a man to hit a woman or a boy to hit a girl but have you known this to have happened? RicDec 22 2018 11:32pm Ric, sure in some fights for fun but with care to the opponent. A well trained male boxer will beat a women quickly. But a well trained women can beat the average man easily. SinaDec 23 2018 4:02am Sina. Teenage girls are already taking on teenage boys at wrestling and in many cases beating them. To your knowledge are there teenage girls who would like to take on teenage boys at boxing if this was allowed? If so if a teenage girl were to take on a teenage boy of equal weight and similar standard of training would she stand a chance of beating him? Seasonal greetings to you. Have a good time over Christmas and best wishes for 2019. RicDec 23 2018 9:45am Ric, thank you! I wish you merry Christmas and a happy new year too. SinaDec 25 2018 12:50am Ric, if both have a similar standard i think both have the same chance to win. Maybe the girl could have more endurance. Today girls often harder! What do you think? SinaDec 27 2018 11:34am Sina. If girls can beat boys at wrestling and they have already proved they can I don’t think it will be long before some girls put on the pressure to box against boys. I cannot see why they can’t. It is up to girls to decide whether they want to hit or be hit by boys. I don’t think it should be a matter for public opinion. Unfortunately I think men will be the main barrier to this actually happening because they don’t like the idea of females beating males in sport. On the other hand if a boy is prepared to compete against a girl in wrestling he may be prepared to compete against a girl in boxing. I don’t really know but I think many girls would be capable of beating a boy. RicDec 28 2018 8:31am Ric, well trained girls in comparison with not trained boys mostly the girls are fitter and stronger. If the boy is trained the difference is smaller. In comparison with adults the difference can be small or very big. An untrained man is mostly weaker compared to a well trained girl or women, but if he is in very good shape he is much stronger than a women normally can reach! You can believe me, i have wrestled or boxing against men and mosty i have defeated them. But i tried to fight against a good friend. He is in good shape and he is really very strong. I was unable to beat him! In both cases i had really much fun. SinaDec 28 2018 10:06am Sina. If I as an untrained man was matched against an untrained woman of equal weight to me and of a similar standard of fitness as me in a boxing match who would be the most likely to win bearing in mind the woman could have better endurance? RicDec 29 2018 9:15am Ric, you are right, you will lose against most women compared to her endurance. Considering to the fact that most women today trained and in good shape you as weak man have probably no chance to beat a female. SinaDec 29 2018 5:22pm Sina. If a man as weak as me were to be matched against the average woman of today in a boxing contest what would be the likely outcome? How many rounds would the fight go and how would the loser be defeated…lose on points or be knocked out? Also can you suggest another site in case this one becomes full? That is if you wish to continue this discussion. I am up for it. RicDec 30 2018 12:17am Ric, i think a weak men will be lose by points against average women. Maybe a strong women will knock a weak man out in first or second round. But the average women probably will easily defeat weak men an each round. For strong women weak men not a challenge. She could think: „what a weakling“, after he has challanged her. We can continue in the following poll if this is closed. http://www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/2378 SinaDec 30 2018 10:05am Sina. I don’t dispute what you have said but I find it quite scary. Do you rate me as being weaker than the average woman? Would I get beaten by an average woman in a boxing contest? If so would it be a points’ win or do you think I could get knocked out? When I was beaten at wrestling by that fourteen year old girl when I was seventeen I am sure she could have beaten me at boxing. She was stronger than me and quicker. I think she could have knocked me out. I have noted the alternative site. Thanks. I am away for a couple of days so Happy New Year to you. RicDec 30 2018 12:36pm Ric, happy new year! Yourself wrote, that you have less endurance than the average women! I think the average women will outperform you. A box contest in this case finally finished by points. Probably after some rounds she knocks you out but only if you a really tired! SinaJan 02 2019 5:05am Sina. It is awesome to think the average woman could outperform me at boxing. Would you consider me stronger, weaker or about as strong as the average woman? RicJan 02 2019 7:52am Ric, i don’t know! It can be that the average women is stronger than you but if i take a look to our correspondence above i think you not weaker than the average women but only a little stronger than her. But what do you think is the average women? Untrained, normal trained or fit? With or without strength training? I think a women who made strength training is quickly stronger than you! SinaJan 02 2019 9:03am Sina it is difficult to define the average woman but in my part of the world the average woman would be a few inches shorter than me but maybe slightly heavier and would be more into keep fit training than me. Some might be into weight training but I am not sure how many. I have to agree with what you said earlier and that is that I am weaker than many women. I have to accept that I am probably weaker than some school girls. It is scary to think I could get beaten at wrestling or boxing by a school girl but I am sure some girls could do it. RicJan 02 2019 1:59pm Ric, nowadays girls are introduced to weight training early on. They are even particularly promoted in power lessons, only for girls. The result is that many girls become stronger than boys. Many of them find the idea great to be stronger and they visit the expansion lessions up to bodybuilding. This girls mostly become considerably stronger and faster than men. SinaJan 02 2019 2:33pm Sina. Could I be physically weaker that girls in the twelve to fourteen age range? Do you know of any such girls who could be physically stronger than me? If so I am sure they would regard me as a weakling. RicJan 02 2019 2:54pm Ric, until 14 the girls do sport with light weights but probably they will become a little stronger than average women so even stronger than you. With 15 they are ready to start bodybuilding. Probably if they are 16yo they are much stronger than you and most average men. With 17 or 18 maybe they are so incredible strong that you are really a weakling compared to them. Aorry for that, hope you are not mad about this. SinaJan 02 2019 3:09pm Sina. I am not mad about girls of twelve to fourteen being stronger than me because it appears to be a fact. If a girl chooses to train and become a bodybuilder then I would expect her to become stronger than me at some stage. It comes as a bit of a surprise that a girl so young could be stronger than me. From my description of the average woman in my part of the world would you say I was stronger, weaker or about the same strength as her bearing in mind she is more inclined to go to keep fit classes or the gym? Be as frank as you like. From your point of view am I a weakling? I find this discussion very interesting. RicJan 03 2019 8:40am Ric, it’s hard to say if you are weaker, stronger or same strength than average women. Compared to a fit women you are probably weaker. If she do strength training probably she will be much stronger than you. In this case by body strength you are a weakling. But your personality i think you are strong! SinaJan 03 2019 11:16am Ric, related to young girls who start with training, most of them start with eleven or twelve and many need one or two years to become strong. Mostly their muscles gain clear bigger between they’re 13 and 15 years old. Latest with 16 they have mostly same muscle size or bigger muscles than average men. If they do then bodybuilding they get much bigger and very hard muscles and often average men look small and weak compared to this girls. Later these women become clear stronger like most men. They can toy with two or three men at same time sometimes even more. SinaJan 03 2019 11:38am Sina, It's encouraging to know that I am strong by personality. Thanks. However, I have to admit that compared to many women I am a weakling. I find your article on training girls most interesting. Would the trained girls of sixteen and over consider me to be of an inferior class of person due to being so much weaker than them? If not how would they rate me? Ric.Jan 03 2019 1:35pm Ric, it hard to say again but i think you should not mess with them! Otherwise, be friendly, then they will be too! If not you should keep away. SinaJan 04 2019 6:08am Sina, I would never mess with you or any other strong girl or woman. If women want to body build and be stronger than most men, well good luck to you all. I am quite content to be a weakling but I wouldn’t want to be teased about it. Once at a party a woman who I know well was discussing ways to slim. She was a big woman and I remarked that I didn’t have that problem. She retaliated by calling me puny and reckoned she was stronger than me. I was relieved that she didn’t challenge me to prove it because I suspect I would have been taken apart. In retrospect I sometimes wish we had had a contest because it would have been interesting. RicJan 05 2019 8:06am Ric, why do you want not compete you with strong girls like me? You wrote it self, it could be exciting! I woudn‘t tease you but i think for you it could be exciting and for me it’s funny to show you the strength difference! Do you think not? It‘s only important that i don’t hurt you! Or imagine we could compare our bodies! This would be exciting for me! You could whorship my big muscles and we both know they are much stronger than your small weaker muscles! SinaJan 06 2019 11:36am Sina. I wouldn’t want to compete with strong girls like you because I am quite content to be as I am. As I said in my original entry I am not bothered by women being stronger than me and body building wouldn’t be of interest to me. I couldn’t be that dedicated. However, it would be interesting for you and I to compare bodies and to see how much stronger you are compared to me. It would be a ‘no contest’ situation. It would be good for you to have teenage girls and boys watching us to show them real ‘Girl Power’. I think the boys would be quite scared. As for me I would be prepared to worship your big muscles and your physical superiority. RicJan 06 2019 1:41pm Sina I would like to add that although I wouldn't want to compete against strong girls in body building I would still like to compete against them in wrestling. I would be willing to take you on just to see how I would perform. RicJan 06 2019 1:52pm Ric, i did not mean that you should go to a gym! Most men do not do that! Therefore they are weaker than most girls! But it could be exciting for both if he try to keep up with a trained girl. In many cases the result is that the girl has same strength or stronger than the man. In some cases she could be much stronger than him. SinaJan 07 2019 12:07am Ric, to wrestle a stronger girl could be dangerous for both. The risk of injury is high especially for weak men. Some can’t accept when they lose and try it with violence. But she can fight back and could beat him down, especialy if she becomes mad. SinaJan 07 2019 12:15am Sina. I think you are right. It might not be a good idea for me to wrestle a strong girl. Instead I think the best way to compete is, as you suggested, we compare bodies and see who has the biggest muscles and who can lift the most. Also we could arm wrestle and have a one on one tug of war. I think you might enjoy it more in front of an audience so everybody could see how much weaker I am than you. To you am I a man or just a weak male? RicJan 07 2019 7:50am Ric, yes, you‘re a man! What has it to do with it if you are a man? To compare muscle size and strength, weight lifting is a save way to do that. What do you think about a girl if she have much bigger muscles and is much stronger than you? SinaJan 08 2019 3:53pm Sina. I have become used to women and girls being stronger than me. More and more I am seeing women and girls with stronger looking bodies than mine. In fact I am beginning to like the idea of women being stronger than me. I don’t think women are naturally as aggressive as men so I don’t look upon them as a threat. With maybe a few exceptions I don’t think I am likely to get beaten up by a woman although there are many women who could do that.There is always a chance I could get set upon by a girl gang but I think that is very rare. Regarding me being a man or a weak male some woman has written on one of these sites that she doesn’t regard a small man as a man. RicJan 09 2019 11:45pm Ric, a women wrote she doesn’t regard a small man as man? She should be sure if she is a women, isn‘t it? But some men seems to have a problem if they are weaker than women. Sometimes i ask why? Is it because men are taller than women? The difference today is even smaller today as some years ago. Maybe one or two inches. If a women want to be taller she can wear heels and she is quickly taller than most men. SinaJan 10 2019 9:49am Sina. Women have the advantage. As you say a woman can make herself as tall as a man or even taller by wearing shoes with higher heels but if a man is weaker than a woman he has much work to do in the gym to catcher her up. I agree that women are getting taller but they are also getting stronger which is becoming a problem for many men. I reckon it won't be long before 50% of women are stronger than me. RicJan 13 2019 10:26am Ric, after you told me i think in more than 50 percent women could be stronger than you. Why do you think men have a problem with stronger women than themselve? Do you think they are scared about strong girls? SinaJan 13 2019 2:28pm Sina. I think men have a problem with women being stronger than them because men generally are expected to be stronger than women and if a woman proves to be stronger than a man that man can feel a failure. I fully accept that many women are stronger than me and I am beginning to like the idea. I am a little surprised that you think more than 50% of women are stronger than me but you may be right. Women must consider me a real weakling. Could I be in danger of being challenged by women to wrestle so they can show off to their friends? RicJan 14 2019 2:18pm Ric, I think you are right! Sometimes i made the experince that men are scared of me! I think the risk that a women wants challange you possibly will be exist. But most women are fair, do you have another experience? SinaJan 14 2019 3:09pm Sina. I have another experience which might amuse you.A couple of years ago I went on a walking holiday for two weeks. I would have been allowed to park my car outside the hotel just to unload my luggage. I would then have had to move it and park in a permitted area in a nearby street. But, because the spaces were nearly always taken it could take a long time to get parked. On this occasion I saw a space about 75 metres from the hotel ant took it while I could. I then walked to the hotel to book in. The manager then sent a member of the female staff to help me carry my luggage. I gave a light overnight bag to the woman and carried the heavy suitcase myself. Suddenly the woman grabbed the suitcase and said “you are struggling, let me take it.†She then handed me the overnight bag and told me I could carry that. She walked off with the suitcase to the hotel and then carried it up two flights of stairs to my room. I have to admit she was much stronger than me. To her I must have been a real weakling. RicJan 15 2019 4:55am Ric, funny story but i noticed same more and more often that many men today are unable to carry heavy things or they can‘t help themself! They need the help of a stronger, to them superior women. SinaJan 15 2019 10:06am Sina. In this day an age of automation is there any necessity for anyone to have to lift anything? Maybe the only time one needs to lift anything is when one is working out in a gym to keep fit. I did my weekly eight mile walk today at speed and I met another man who was doing the same. He said he liked to walk to keep fit because he came across interesting places and many other things of interest. He said he gave up exercising in a gym because he found it boring. What do you think? RicJan 16 2019 2:47pm Ric, yes, today people doesn‘t need to lift but everyone should be interested to stay fit. Unfortunately many men are lazy to train hard! In contrast most women train in a gym and today society advocates muscles on girls and women. That lead to sport and training lessons especially for girls to build strength! Mostly boys will not be educated in sport and this is the reason why boys stay far behind girls. Most boys have never the experience to be stronger than a girl. The older generation noticed that girls and women become more and more stronger. In some years it becomes normal that women substantially stronger than men! SinaJan 16 2019 5:18pm Sina. You say that in some years it will be normal for women to be substantially stronger than men. You have estimated that probably more than 50% of women are stronger than me so it appears that I have already been overtaken and become physically inferior to women. If more than 50% of women are stronger than me most of the rest are probably just as strong as me. If more than 50% of women are stronger than me what percentage of teenage girls would be stronger than me? RicJan 16 2019 11:59pm Ric, i don’t know but i think that probably more than 75% of teengirls will become stronger than you or most other men. Unless men come back to the gym and try to keep up with girls! SinaJan 17 2019 9:06am Sina. I don't know whether men will come back to the gym or not. It maybe that some may be shamed into returning to the gym when they realise how much weaker they are compared to women. As for me I am prepared to accept that I am a weakling and that an increasing number of women and girls are stronger than me. Do you think I am pathetic for thinking that? Ric.Jan 18 2019 11:56pm Ric, only a little ;-) Maybe someday there will be „men fit center“ for all the weaklings like you. They can train with light wights to keep up a little. SinaJan 19 2019 3:23pm Sina. Do you know of a girl who beat an adult man at wrestling? If so how old was she and could she have beaten me? Do girls like the opportunity to wrestle weak men? RicJan 21 2019 5:02am Ric, yes! The youngest girl i know who beat an adult male is 14yo. Sometimes it’s fun to beat a guy but only if he want it too. Sometimes a guy have a big mouth! Then he needs to get spanking occasionally! SinaJan 21 2019 10:58am Sina. It must be humiliating for an adult man to be beaten by a 14 year old girl at wrestling. If I were to join a gym do you think girls would enjoy showing off their superior strength to me? If so it could be the reason men don't want to join a gym in the first place. They might feel intimidated by much stronger women and girls showing to them. RicJan 23 2019 11:47pm Ric, there is always a stronger one! I think girls don’t want to show always their strength to men but women are much more competitive than men. Could you imagine To join a „Men fit center“? SinaJan 25 2019 2:17am amazing stuff, it really looks like the world is changing... mcdJan 26 2019 2:24am Yes the world is changing and its good for us girls to become the stronger sex. SinaJan 26 2019 9:56am Sina. Do you think there will come a time when there is no difference between the strength of a man and the strength of a woman? In this day and age of automation there is no need for anyone to be strong unless they are into sport and many people are not. Many people especially men are very keen on football but from a grandstand or in an arm chair with a crate of beer. In other words people are very keen on watching sport but not so keen on participating. What do you think? We might have another contribution to our discussion in the form of mcd. RicJan 27 2019 9:22am Ric, no. Men today are mostly lazy and do no sport. Today you can see more and more fat or very slim men with no or tiny muscles. At the same time more and more women do more sport and today the socidity accept and promotes that women do strength training. This is the reason why women today more muscular and often stronger than men. Women who do heavy strength training have mostly big visible muscle mountains. Not like small weak man with his tiny muscles. I think in a couple of years it will be normal that men are very small and weak during women are muscular and very strong. SinaJan 28 2019 11:46am Sima. You have already assessed me as being probably weaker than at least 50% of women and about 75% weaker than girls so it would seem that I have already become a small weak man. Being such a weakling should I start to be scared of women? RicJan 28 2019 2:37pm Ric, no it is not necessary but you shoud respect them always and still remember that they propably much stronger than you. In a case of a conflict it will be better for you to go back! SinaJan 29 2019 11:53am Sina. I read in the paper that there is a demand for female bodyguards. There was an article on two women who are doing it. I think if I needed a bodyguard I would rather like to have a female. Being a weak male it would be be quite an experience to have a much stronger female protecting me but in this day and age I can see more and more women protecting the ever increasing number of weak men. What do you think? RicJan 31 2019 2:48pm Ric, i can imagine that! Men are mostly to weak compared with strong women. You will see it in each gym. Only few men are really strong. Untrained the difference between the sexes is very small. If both have the same training level the difference is still very small but most women are ambitiously and most men are lazy. In my gym only 2 men who are really a little stronger. The whole rest is weaker or similar strong like the women’s and girls. In my friend circle i made the same experience. SinaFeb 02 2019 12:41am Sina. I don't think female bodyguards will be that popular with men because I don't think many men would like the idea of being protected by a woman. I may be an exception because as I said before I rather like the idea of a very strong woman protecting me. Do you think I am odd or more in touch with the real world? As I said in my original entry I am not bothered by women being stronger than me. RicFeb 04 2019 2:14pm Ric, i think you are in touch with the real world in this kind that you realize that the world is changing. Many men wouldn‘t accept this and they will learn it with a hard time but they will learn! SinaFeb 05 2019 12:07pm Ric, all ok with you? SinaFeb 08 2019 12:41pm Sina. Do you think most men would rather give up sport than compete against women? I don’t think I would have a problem with competing against women even at wrestling and boxing. I as an untrained man would rather like to take on an untrained woman of similar weight to me to see how I would get on. As you consider me weaker than about 55% of women I would probably get beaten. Do you think there are women who would like to take on a weak man like me? RicFeb 08 2019 12:43pm Sina > all ok with me. Been a bit busy of late. RicFeb 08 2019 12:45pm Sina. I hope all is well with you. I hope I haven't upset you by being a bit late with last reply. If so I apologise. Please let me know if you wish to discontinue our discussion. RicFeb 11 2019 11:03pm Ric, i’m sorry for my delay but this time i’m busy. Please let us continue this discussion. SinaFeb 11 2019 11:09pm I think for most women i‘t will be not a big thing to take weaker men like you. But sometimes it’s funny for women to realize how much weaker men today are especially if the man mean he would be stronger but then he must admit that she is the stronger one. SinaFeb 11 2019 11:18pm The funniest experience i had in a competition with a man when i realized that he so weak that i need only 10 or 20 percent of my strength to overpower him. After this fight he kiss my bicep and he realized that female muscles often bigger and much stronger than male muscles today. In a comparson i had show him how small his tiny muscles are against my big female rock hard muscles. SinaFeb 11 2019 11:33pm Sina. I am pleased that you wish to continue with this discussion. Whenever you are busy just respond when you can and I will do the same when I am busy. Unless you tell me that you don’t want to continue with this discussion I will assume that you will respond eventually. I am amused by your funny experience and I am interested to know how I compare with that man in physical strength. To women we are both weaklings but I wonder which one of us is the weaker? RicFeb 12 2019 1:40pm Seriously, who gives a $h1t? an intelligent life from.Feb 13 2019 2:56pm Ric, I think you both are nearly equal weak. You’re both just men! SinaFeb 13 2019 4:09pm Sina When you related your funny experience I was surprised how weak the man was. It’s awesome to think you consider me just as weak. When I had that assessment in the gym the two women who proved stronger than me were just untrained average women who were thinking of joining the gym. Apparently they were surprised that a man could be weaker than them. I have to admit that your assessment of me as a weakling is surprisingly accurate. RicFeb 13 2019 11:50pm Ric, it becomes more and more normal that men are weaker. The most men i armwrestle them are so weak, it’s very easy for me to beat them. SinaFeb 17 2019 1:44am Sina. Do you think there will come a time when all sport is inter gender? There will be no men or women’s sport, there will be just sport. So if a man takes up wrestling he can find himself matched against a man or a woman. No doubt this would put many men off sport to begin with but future generations of men would probably get used to it in time. As I have said before I wouldn’t have a problem with wrestling a woman in a competition. RicFeb 19 2019 2:22pm Ric, i think yes for a short time! Later i think men can‘t keep up with girls anymore! I can see it in my gym. Except one men the strongest are women and women are the majority in the gym. SinaFeb 19 2019 11:09pm Sina. Does bodybuilding become an obsession? Do you ever get to the stage when you are satisfied that you are strong enough and look really good or are you compelled to go on and on because you are never satisfied? I think some female bodybuilders look really good but others go on until they look grotesque. What is your ultimate goal? RicFeb 22 2019 2:15pm Ric, i think it will be enough if i look like a strong muscular girl. But i love it when it is visible that i‘m very strong. Therefore i wanted to get so big muscles that they’re could’t overlook by other. The result is that my muscles look like a cut of rockhard balls if i flex them and they‘re mostly bigger than men. Untrained mens. They muscles mostly look tiny compared to my and they mostly much weaker. SinaFeb 22 2019 4:29pm Sina. I think you are very sensible. It seems that many bodybuilders, men and women, do not know when to stop and end up looking most peculiar. I think you probably look very good, very strong but not overdone. RicFeb 25 2019 1:42pm Thank you Ric! I hope i have not overdone because my muscles mostly bigger than mens. But i look always feminine! Sina Feb 26 2019 3:37pm Sina, I am glad that you are aware of not overdoing your body building and that you still wish to look feminine. I think strong women can look great if it is not overdone. Men can also look grotesque if they overdo it. The fourteen year old girl who beat me at wrestling when I was seventeen was naturally very strong, a real ‘tomboy’ but she still looked good. In contrast I was skinny and weaker than her. RicMar 01 2019 2:54pm Sina. Is all ok with you? RicMar 29 2019 11:06am Hello Ric, yes! Sorry for the delay but you don’t answer for a long time and on this reason i was absent. I hope all fine with you! SinaApr 03 2019 11:45am Sina. Good to hear from you. I appreciate that you are a busy lady. Just communicate when you feel like it. Don't overdo the bodybuilding; I am sure you look great as you are. You are much stronger than me anyway. RicApr 07 2019 1:35pm Thank you! I love to build my body and it will be hard for me to stopping! I love the strength also! It‘s a great feeling to be stronger than most men. SinaApr 08 2019 11:14pm Sina. It would appear that you and I are opposites. You are stronger than most men and I could be weaker than most women and certainly weaker than most girls. It's an awesome thought. RicApr 10 2019 10:46pm I think it‘s great that you accept the roll reversal of the sexes. What would you do if you have to carry any heavy thing but you are to weak to do that. You see some young girls you know they are trained but they are sometimes bad to men. Would you ask one of these girls to help you? SinaApr 16 2019 3:30am Sina. I think if I talked to them right they would be ok. If I told them that I admired their superior strength and accepted that I was weaker than them they would not need to be a threat. The worst thing I could do would be to try and show off to them. Under such circumstances it is a question of knowing one's place. RicApr 19 2019 2:14pm The most other men would run away in such case! Do you know other men who wouldn‘t do so? SinaApr 20 2019 11:48pm Sina I don't know how other men would react to this situation. You have already assessed me as weaker than most teenage girls therefore it would be no use for me to do anything other than humour them by admitting to being a weakling. There is always the risk that one of the girls would beat me up just to teach me a lesson for being so weak. RicApr 24 2019 9:51am Ric, some girls start very ambitiously with wight training. Mostly they need a couple of months to become stronger than men. Before i start training. a young boy maybe 8 yo challenged me for arm wrestling. Of course i could beat him without any effort. I think i was 11 or 12. After 4 years of weight training it is equal simple to beat an adult man like the 8 yo boy! SinaMay 14 2019 11:32am I used to go to my friend Bella’s house as often as I could, and I had a lot of fun doing it. When I went often I had just turned 11 and she was about 9. She had an older brother who always had to watch us and he was an early teenager around 14 I believe. Anyways occasionally we could convince him to join our stupid games and it was always kind of fun. I always have been a fairly big person however, and by 11 I was already 4’11†and weighed 103lbs, but Bella’s older brother, James, was extremely skinny he was 5’6†and only weighed 116 pounds. One day Bella and I were playing cops and robbers and I was the cop, in order to play I would grab Bella’s wrists and force them behind her back where I’d put on fake handcuffs. This was not very difficult for me as I had built up quite a bit of strength not only due to my weight but also due to my avid love of being a base cheerleader and my love for working out in gymnastics. So anyways when we played cops and robbers we eventually got James to join in as a robber and while he didn’t run, he didn’t think he’d have to so he waited around me so he could block me from Bella, when I eventually grabbed his wrists he sort of ignored it until I started pulling his wrists behind his back, he eventually pulled back and I loosened my grip a little bit but kept pulling his wrists, after about 30 seconds he started trying to stop me so hard his arms were wobbly and shaking, but I pulled as hard as I could as well and pinned his wrists to his back and put the fake hand cuffs on. He was shocked and said I must’ve had the best angle I could’ve to pull that off, and I told James that I didn’t. He then said he would be cop next round, and on the next round he targeted me. He grabbed my wrists and pulled them to get them pinned behind my back, but eventually I was resisting with all my power and his arms got shaky and wobbly again and I was able to break out and escape. He was again surprised and said I got lucky and said he’d show me what required strength. He said to stand in front of a wall and he’d pin my wrists to the wall. So I put my back to the wall and put my arms forward and he grabbed my wrists he then pushed them towards the wall and I started resisting. Eventually he was too weak to pin my arms and I managed to not get my arms pinned to the wall, then we swapped positions and I grabbed his wrists and forced them towards the wall, and after some remarkable struggle I pinned hem to the wall and he desperately squirmed to un pin them and unfortunately, James couldn’t. With that he was shocked and kept saying “how†I told him “upper body strength†and he said “well I’m still heavier than you, and so I’m stronger†I told him “you’re not that heavy, I could definitely pick you up.†He said I couldn’t because he was 116lbs. I then went to prove I could be wrapping my arms around his waist and grabbing my forearms. I was able to lift him up even though I had to lean back, I picked his feet up quite a bit off the ground before promptly setting him back, which shocked him even more. Later that day when he was a cop and I was a robber he kept trying to pin my arm to arrest me and I always stopped him. One time he went as far as using his body weight to try to pin me, but using all of my strength I pushed him off. The only other thing we did was test our grip because he said his grip was stronger than mine. To do this we locked hands over our heads with the goal of seperating our hands. I locked my hands first. He grabbed my wrists and tried to pull them apart from each other, but as he pulled his hands slid down until they touched where my arm muscle meets my elbow, he then pulled as hard as he could until I couldn’t even feel him pulling anymore. He said that it was impossible anyways so he wasn’t surprised he couldn’t do it. He then locked his hand and it was my turn, I also grabbed his wrists and after a long and hard struggle and pulling I barely broke his grip. All he could say was “oh my gosh†I said “whatâ€, and he said “you’re super strong and your muscles feel really hard compared to mine, and when I felt his and mine mine did feel a bit harder. My arms were thicker than his by a bit with my muscle being a little bit bigger, but my legs were a lot thicker than his. Overall I thought it was funny to be so much stronger than him. AubreyMay 19 2019 3:54am Sina. I think many women are stronger than men these days and it is because they are far more likely to use a gym. Once at the gym I think they are more committed because I think they like to be stronger than men. RicMay 21 2019 10:53pm Aubrey. As I said to Sina earlier when I was 17 our neighbours' 14 year old daughter took me on at wrestling and beat me. I was a bit taller than her but she was of a heftier build than me. I was the epitome of the puny youth. The girl was stronger than me and dominated the contest. I ended up on my back with her astride me and pinning my arms to the ground. I was rendered helpless and had to admit I was beaten. RicMay 21 2019 11:00pm Aubrey, it is a great feeling stronger than boys, isn’t it? Keep in charge and get bigger and stronger, you will love the feeling if boys or men show respect because they no they are not so strong like you! Sina May 23 2019 2:46pm Yes Ric! I love it that i‘m stronger than the guys and the most other girls like it too. I love it if a guy gets big eyes if i say him that his strength compared to me is only like a child. Sina May 23 2019 2:55pm Sina. Aubrey at the age of 11 was stronger than James who was 14, 5' 6" and weighed 116lbs. I at 17 was 5' 7" and weighed 114lbs. I was also skinny. I have a feeling Aubrey would have been stronger than me. I bet she is stronger than me now. RicMay 23 2019 4:06pm Ric, if she workout she’s probably much stronger than you for sure. But we don’t know how old she is today. SinaMay 24 2019 8:44am Sina. It is a funny thing. Women and girls love to be stronger than men and boys but I'm beginning to like the idea of the role reversal. I rather enjoy being weaker than most women and girls. Is that odd? RicMay 29 2019 8:46am Many men want not see that women and girls become stronger but they self are lazy and do no sport or they do only a little. It‘s no wonder that many men are only have average strength. When i started training i don‘t want to be stronger than boys or getting muscles but i realized that my body responds good to the training and i become curious what i can get with hard training. It takes while but than i realized that i can use heavier weights than most adult males. SinaMay 29 2019 11:02pm Sina, Do you think in time that men might become used to women being stronger than them and that they will eventually accept it? I have already accepted that I am probably weaker than at least 50% of women but I don't particularly mind being weak. I've been called puny by a couple of women in the past but we laughed it off. RicJun 05 2019 1:59pm Ric, i think men have to accept it because someday strong women would not hide anymore that they are stronger than men. Sometime if the average needed strength will oriented by womens higher strength many men will got problems to do something alone who need more strength they dont have! Then they must ask a women if she can help them with her much higher strength level. I could imagine many things men need help because they are to weak! SinaJun 05 2019 2:41pm I do love being stronger than guys, it makes me feel very powerful and important. I have been under a rather strict workout as I have started playing water polo in addition to cheerleading and gymnastics, meaning I need to gain even more weight. AubreyJun 05 2019 10:26pm Aubrey, i know what you mean. I love the feeling to show to a guy how much stronger i‘am. If he tries te mess with my strength and must admit, that he is much too weaker against me! It‘s a really lovely feeling much stronger than guys. What do you think how strong are most guys compared to you? By the way, how old are you? SinaJun 06 2019 3:34pm Sina. As Aubrey works out and if she is 14 or more I reckon she is probably stronger than me and could beat me at wrestling. RicJun 07 2019 12:54pm Sina. Site you previously suggested is full. When tis site full try: www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/4108. RicJun 07 2019 1:40pm Sina. don't put the dot at the end. it should read: www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/4108 RicJun 07 2019 2:05pm Some years ago when i was17 yo, there was a girl who wants me as her boyfriend. She was eleven and i thought she’s much to young. Anyhow, she annoys me always that i should be her boyfriend. Someday i said to her if she start working out maybe i could be her boyfriend if she becomes stronger. Since this day she started with training. My birthday is one month before hers. On my 18th birthday she challenged me to an arm wrestling match and i accepted. It was unbelievable how strong she‘s gotten. I really had to struggle to prevent that she defeated me but i couldn’t defeat her too. One month later on her 12th birthday we had an arm wrestling match again. Now i could struggle how many i wanted, she defeated me in all of eight matches. She said she would force me to be her boyfriend if i don’t say yes but i’ve have running away from her when ever i saw her. Oneday after my 20th birthday she catched me and she beats me up how i never thougth that a 13 yo girl can do it to a 20 yo guy but i was much to weak to defend myself against her. Since then i‘m her boyfriend and she‘s my boss. Meanwhile I‘m 22 and she is 16 yo. She is simply much stronger than me by a multiple. I can absolutly not keep up with her. HenniJun 08 2019 6:38am That was a bit ago, I just turned thirteen. AubreyJun 09 2019 11:11pm In junior high and freshman year of highschool I knew a girl named willow. She was a very cool girl and we were good friends since we were both in PE and neither of us liked it. We were both fairly tall, both being about 5’8, though I was fairly skinny only weighing about 112 pounds, she was heavier than me at 134 pounds. While we were by the drinking fountain near the end of PE she suddenly started talking about how she had pigggybacked her dad last night who weight 212 pounds, I said “dang you must really workout( this was intended as a joke) and she said “well I sort of do, but I’m not that impressive,you see.†Them she grabbed my ankles and picked me up. She sat me on her shoulders. I was extremely shocked needless to say. After about two months I forgot about that ordeal, and she never really lifted me again. Until before junior high ended I brought marshmallows for us to share since they were her favorite, and when I told her she was estatic and hugged me immediately. I went to leave her hug, but absolutely couldn’t, as I tried to budge I just felt how tight her hug was. After a semi intense struggle, my whole body was weak and shaking, but she still hugged me, and she even leaned back about half an inch and lifted me off the ground onto her, she spun around really fast and squeezed super hard. Unfortunately, when she squeezed, I felt her arm muscles crushing my ribs, and her squeeze was so tight I instinctively let out a whimpering yelp, and she let me go and apologized, I admitted it was fine after I refined my breath. The most impressive feat by far however was in high school when I saw her a month after it started she put her forearm under my crotch and raised her arm, I slid down to her bicep and was barely touching the ground. After an intense lift, she hoisted me into the air for a mere second on just her bicep MarkJun 09 2019 11:58pm do you train with wights? I could imagine that you propbably much stronger than most guys. How much weight do you curl and how often? Henni Jun 10 2019 1:07am Sorry, i would to wrote to Aubrey in my post above! Henni Jun 10 2019 1:10am Aubrey, i think you still have a lot potential even if you propbably already stronger than most guys! Are your muscles become visible if you flex them? When I was your age my muscles starts to become visible. Many guys were jealous when they saw how big my muscles become when i flex them. SinaJun 10 2019 4:09pm Ric, how you can read here Aubrey is only 13 and because she is involved many sports she‘s propbably meanwhile superior to you by far. Henni wrote it too, he had no chance against his 12 year old girlfriend when he was 18 and how she become much stronger than he is until today. The same with Marc. His girlfriend is much stronger than he is. I think it is normal today that girls much stronger than guy. Men have to accept that they are the weaker sex by far now. Clearly weaker than girls and much weaker than women. SinaJun 10 2019 4:36pm Sina. I suspect Aubrey is much stronger than me. The 14 year old girl who beat me at wrestling when I was 17 didn't work out but was a bit more into sports than me. She was stronger than me so I can quite believe that Aubrey who does work out would be much stronger than me. But as I have said I quite like the idea of women and girls being stronger than me. RicJun 13 2019 1:15pm Ric, i‘m very exited about the fact that on this poll we talked with or about 4 girls and 4 men and in all cases the men are much weaker than we girls. This means 100% of the girls in this discution are stronger than men. We girls are the stronger sex and it seams that we are stronger too than men were in the past! Sina Jun 13 2019 2:23pm Henni, for sure most of us girls train with wights you men unable to move! Which weigts do your girlfriend use with 12 and today and how light are the small weigths you use? SinaJun 13 2019 2:31pm I‘m not sure anymore but when she was 12yo she could lift weights for reps who were pretty heavy for me but if i tried i could lift them one or two times but i really had to struggle to take them. Meanwhile she uses more and more weights i can‘t lift anymore not at all because for me they are much to heavy! Henni Jun 14 2019 8:09pm Yes I do train win weights, right now I can curl about 30lbs on a dumbbell for reps, other than that I do lunges and squats. My muscles are becoming visible, and definitely can be felt. My calves and thighs show some muscle, but my shoulders and biceps do have some muscle, with my biceps being somewhat visible at about 12â€. AubreyJun 14 2019 11:45pm Hey Aubrey, wow! I think 30lbs is pretty heavy! Normally i train with 25lbs for 8 reps. How many reps are you doing? Henni Jun 14 2019 11:52pm Aubrey, sounds that you are on good way to build more musclemass. You already keep up with average men regarding your muscle size but your strength level is higher than men. Henni sounds that he trains but he wrotes that he can curl a 25lb dumbell 8 times. I could imagin you curl 30lb more than 10 times what means you should increase the weight! But anyhow you are already superior to henni who trains. Ric is even weaker. Go for it girl, train, eat and grow. Than most men will not be a challange for you! SinaJun 16 2019 6:35am It‘s true Sina, probably Aubrey is stronger than me. It will be hard for me to resist against her. A few years later she will be propbably much stronger than me. It will be the same like with my girlfriend who is meanwhile twice as strong as me. It‘s hard to admit but it seems to become common. But i‘m curious if Aubrey can lift 30 pounds more often than i can do with 25 pounds or can she lift 35 pounds or a little more weight too? Henni Jun 17 2019 3:57pm Yes, Bianca is my girlfriend! In another poll i read a post from a young girl. She just turned 13yo and she can already curl more than 13kg. I agree with you that girls are mostly much stronger and get the strength faster. I‘ve calculated how long it takes to get the same strength like Bianca has gotten in 4 to 5 years, i would need 15 years. Henni Jun 18 2019 4:20pm Oops, sorry! Wrong poll... Henni Jun 18 2019 4:36pm Sina. Out of all the people we have talked about on this poll it would appear I am the weakest. I admit to being much weaker than you and Aubrey and if you consider me to be weaker than Henni I must be much weaker than his girlfriend. Do you think that Aubrey at 13 could beat me at wrestling and boxing? RicJun 20 2019 3:03pm Maybe Aubrey can give you the answer by herself? But it could be how do you read it, i think henni is a little stronger than you. But henni is weaker than Aubrey. I think you and henni, you do not have a chance against that girl! I remember you wrote, that your arm circumference is between 11.5 and 12 inches and you told your arms are soft with a little fat. Aubreys armcwould be propably hard as a rock and already visible. This means her muscle cross section is bigger than yours, and this means she is stronger than you. SinaJun 20 2019 4:23pm Sina, you are right about a girl who trains being stronger than a man who doesn’t. A few years back I play wrestled with my 12 year old sister in law, who trained extensively in a gym for volleyball. She was easily able to push me against the wall and twist my hands back in a game of ‘mercy’. There was literally nothing I could do to stop her. The exercising had given her a sturdy build, and she was maybe 140lbs, which was only a few pounds less than me. SteveJul 07 2019 8:16am Steve, how old were you are at this time? Do you had compared your muscles with hers? How was hers reaction? SinaJul 09 2019 10:09am Early 30s, so no excuse for being weaker really, other than that I’ don’t do any regular exercise. Yes, she wanted to compare, jokingly. I estimate my biceps were smaller by at least an inch (11.5)and my wrists definitely thinner. I think we were both a bit embarrassed actually, especially as others were in the room. Are you stronger than any of your male relatives? SteveJul 09 2019 3:40pm Yes, in my family no male is regularly involved in sport. Some females do sport and most of them are stronger than men. I do strength training and compared to most i‘m stronger. In my gym are some guys they do strength training too and they are stronger than me. But all men i know who do no sport are weaker than females involved in sport. Why does you both were embarrassed when other people’s were in the same room during you comparing muscles? Today it’s common than girls are stronger and have bigger muscles than many men. Sina Jul 10 2019 6:05am I guess it was just unexpected for us both. I agree it happens, but I am not sure it is actually common that girls have bigger muscles than many men. Most women seem to want to be thin and petite, and men’s natural size gives an advantage SteveJul 16 2019 2:18am Well Steve, if you compare a small girl with a big man he will be stronger for sure! But if you compare similar tall men and women you will note, that the strength difference is very small and more and more often the girl is the stronger one. I‘ve made the experience that more girls going to a gym than guys. Not always girls want become bigger but if they do sport they will become stronger. And more girls than in the past want‘s to become bigger. Also it‘s a fact that the size difference between men and girls will become smaller with time! SinaJul 16 2019 4:04pm In addition, if you see this poll you can read about some men and some girls all teens. All this teengirls are stronger than men and have probably bigger muscles too. Do you think it will become not become more common if you see that in this poll we talk with or about four guys and five girls and in all cases the girls are the stronger ones? I think girls and even young girls are meanwhile the stronger sex while men are often simply weaker than girls. SinaJul 16 2019 5:21pm I agree women will get stronger over time, but the speed depends on whether schools encourage girls to participate in and train for sport equally with boys. Certainly women’s sports are getting more media coverage, so that is a very positive influence. Sina, what made you want to be stronger? You mentioned special strength classes for girls only, was that at your school? SteveJul 23 2019 2:53am In my school was founded the seperated strength sport class for girls only, because when it started girls thought they couldn‘t keep up with guys. But there is a female teacher and she talked with us about the options we can do this sport. She told us that girls can become very strong with the right training and correct lifestyle even stronger than boys or men. Of course men who are do strength training are much stronger than untrained men but the difference between trained men and girls is small. But this means too that trained girls clear stronger than untrained men. Also girls in puberty responds very good to strength training. I started in the age of 12 with strength training and i noticed that my body changed quickly. Because I was in puberty i was taller than the boys in my class anyway but i notices that i could keep up with boys three vintages over my class pretty easy. Most of the girls in the sport class made a similar experience and we wants to try how far we can go. We made the experience that we girls can overpower boys pretty simple and even grown men in competitons. Since this days I love to work out more and more and try to go to the max. SinaJul 23 2019 9:24pm Thanks for sharing your experience Sina. Ok, so you are saying there is a ‘window of opportunity’ for girls, and if they train heavily at that age, then they can be and remain stronger than untrained boys/men. Well, I can agree with that. I don’t know how common your experience is in your country but If it spreads you could see a real change in power in all areas of life. Men might not be seen as naturally stronger, there could be much less violence etc. Has being physically stronger than made you more assertive with the males in your day to day life, or do you just test yourself in competitions? Steve Jul 25 2019 2:06pm Steve, first i‘m more assertive against most men because i know they are mostly weaker than me. This is the reason because i know men are not the natually stronger sex but i know they could be strong if they would be not so lazy. But today most men doesn‘t workout but they lay at the couch. Many girls traines today and they live the livestyle ‚strong is the new sexy‘! It is much more accepted today that girls can have muscles but men doesn‘t look to themselfe and have less muscles. During many girls have more massive muscles many men are thin with smal muscles. Therefore are girls today often stronger. I could imagine that girls will be the stronger sex in the future. The body size difference is already small. It sounds that you made not only such experience with your 12 yo sister in law when you are 30yo even else with other girls. Tell about that! SinaJul 25 2019 3:09pm This year I had just become a junior in high school and my sister was having her 11th birthday party at Peter piper pizza. It was a normal event, with nothing very exceptional until we got to a basketball themed game, when we had to shoot. I was much better than all the children there and was bragging about my (otherwise) poor scores in the game when a middle school girl’s basketball team arrived. The team arrived got some food and were quickly given money for tokens. These girls all looked fairly athletic, and had apparently won some massively important game for their school, and one girl from their team (with the distant onlooking of her peers) challenged me to the arcade game relating to basketball. Though this girl had likely just finished eight grade she was stunning. She had nice breasts big but firm looking and toned thighs, noticeable calves that were quite large, a noticeable butt, and some thick torso/ upper body action as well. Not only this but she was fairly tall for her age. (About 5’10 rivaling my height of 5’9). Wanting to maintain my dominance at the game I accepted, and to my horror lost 20-60. She laughed and took her tickets, but I felt as though I needed to investigate her. I tailed her at a distance for a bit until she went outside to walk around the building for a bit. Upon that, I lost her when I went outside until I turned a corner where she came out from behind a pillar and grabbed my shoulders and pushed me to the wall saying “why are you following me?†I was in an unfavorable situation and desperately offered the excuse of seeing her drop some tokens, and with that decided to take my leave, only when I tried to walk away she pushed me into the wall harder until eventually I couldn’t budge her at all. After some desperate conversation I convinced her it was a misunderstanding. She eased her grip and as I was about to leave she forced me against the wall again and laughed saying “all right big man... but you’ll have to excuse me laughing at your… strength.†Her deliberate hesitation angered me and I told her I wouldn’t dare upset a woman and thus did not try to escape her hold. She then wrapped her arms around my inner elbow joint and said “I won’t mind if you get out of this@ and began dragging me back into the restaurant. I tried to wriggle my arms free but she wouldn’t budge and inch and a few inches from the door she even picked me up the way she was holding me before, and before we went in she put me down and let go and laughed at me. She then told me to follow her which I did. She told her friends and they all laughed, though I wouldn’t dare try to combat her recounting of events after her physical display. Intimidated JuniorAug 03 2019 11:16pm Intimidated Junior, do you think you are much stronger than an adult man? Adult men are clear stronger than growing boys but compared to trained girls, adult men are to weak too, to oppose against those girls. This girl you wrote above seems similar old like Aubrey. She wrotes when she turned 11yo, she was already stronger than a 14yo boy. Meanwhile she turned 13yo but she started lift 30pound when she was 12yo. Try to imagine this! Most adult males lift 20pounds, maybe 25pounds. I needed 4 years to use 25pound weights for reps. My girlfriend was stronger than me too when she was 13. I was 18yo at this time. During i could lift 15pound for reps she was able to lift 25pounds. Today I can do that with 22 but 30pounds like Aubrey can lift is to heavy for me! It‘s hard to believe, Aubrey a 13yo girl would be twice as strong like me when i was 18yo and she‘s still stronger than me today by more than 15%. My 16yo girlfriend is today nearly twice as strong like me too. Without training i would not even half as strong like my girlfriend and maybe a little more than half as strong like Aubrey. Henni Aug 04 2019 3:06pm I was wondering if men being the stronger sex physically is not more cultural than really gender. A couple of years ago our daughter at 17 years old had been playing sports but also for three summer seasons had taken the job as she called "farm hand" and she was required to load about (50) 50 lb. grain sacks a day along with about (100) 75 lb. alfalfa bails on to a fifth wheel trailer and unload the same. When at 16 and she got her license to drive, she would do it all day, it's not a semi truck load but was tons of weight lifting on a daily basis. At school the couch had them weight training for girls sports. She was muscular and when our two sons came home to visit, one in the military and the oldest in collage Our youngest daughter in a short sleeve shirt held up her arms and flexed for the boys. The fact is she had much bigger muscles than both of my boys and my husband. I asked her to arm wrestle the boys and she beat them without any real effort several times with both arms and beat her own father just the same. I'm in my fourties and try to stay in shape with a bycicle and at a gym but I had just focused on aerobics and only sometimes used the weight room on a machine. I arm wrestled my husband later and we struggled for a while but I lost. After that I changed my work out to almost all weight lifting and within about a year I beat my husband at arm wrestling, now it's been two years and I can put my bicep or any other muscle next to his or in the mirror and flex. Mine are much more developed and bigger and arm wrestling though we don't do it very often has become a sinch to smash his arm down. So I think it is mostly culture that says women are the weaker sex. Some say "those submissive men" but my sons never submitted to anything, my daughter became stronger then them and my husband did not decide that I am stronger, there isn't anything he can do about it. I made up my mind to make my muscles stronger than his and he would have a long way to go to change it. My husband did not submit so I will appear stronger or more muscular, he had nothing to do with that fact. I have bigger muscles now and I'm stronger, submitting has nothing to do with anything. I really think most women are perceived as the weaker sex because of culture and time in the gym changes it all. It sure did for me. TinaAug 06 2019 5:09pm Ric, where are you? SinaSep 01 2019 5:05pm Sina. I'm sorry I have not been participating for a while. I have been away and busy but I've also been interested in what these other people have had to say. I've also been hoping to ask Aubrey the question I asked you but she seems to have moved on. I can relate to Tina's article. As I said before when I left school I worked on a farm for a while. I drove the tractor but it was the farm girls who did all the lifting and carrying because I was weaker than them. I related earlier the incident when the plough tipped over and I couldn't lift it back into position but a farm girl called Barbara did it. I would say that Tina' daughter is typical of the farm girls I used to work with. RicSep 07 2019 7:50am Sina You said earlier that out of the four girls and the four men who wrote on this site that all the girls were stronger than all the men and that I appeared to be the weakest. It would also seem that Tina and her daughter are stronger than me. It's an awesome thought. RicSep 07 2019 8:10am Tina. Reading the entries above do you think you and your daughter are stronger than me? How would you rate me? RicSep 07 2019 8:16am Ric, all guys in this poll wrote that they were surpassed by females by strength or the women's wrote they surpassed guys by theire streangt. Even Aubrey is stronger than many men. Yes it‘s really unfortunattely that she doesn‘t answer anymore. SinaSep 08 2019 12:17pm Sina I think Tina is right to some extent when she says that men being stronger than women is cultural rather than gender. On the other hand it has been suggested that women are becoming stronger than men because women tend to work out in the gym and men tend not to. However, in my case I don't work out in a gym but I am no stronger than the average woman who doesn't work out in a gym. You have previously remarked that I could be a bit weaker than the average untrained woman. Do you think I am particularly weak or is Tina correct in her first remarks. RicSep 11 2019 12:34am Ric, i think stronger women have increased the average value. You can see it in this and some other polls. Nearly all girls here workout and got stronger than grown men. One example is Aubrey, she wrote she curl 30 pounds for reps. How many men can do this? She‘s just gotten 13 and probably she could already lift 30 pounds when she was 12! This corresponds to the post you wrote further above that you probably weaker than 12yo girls. Aubrey is such a girl, stronger than you! SinaSep 12 2019 2:34pm Sina, I think you are right about Aubrey being stronger than me. The 14 year old girl who beat me at wrestling when I was 17 was untrained. She was stronger than me and if she had been trained she could have beaten me when she was 13. Out of all the girls and men writing on this site it seems I am the weakest. Ric.Sep 22 2019 1:22pm Rik, i think you guys are in pretty similar strength level but it seems that girls today in strength level far above them of men. So you should say, you guys are weaker than girls. SinaSep 23 2019 12:48pm Sina. It would appear that I am barely as strong as the average woman. I think women whether trained or untrained get a kick out of beating a man in a physical contest. If I was to have taken up wrestling do you think I would have received plenty of challenges from untrained women? Would I have been the ideal male for mixed wrestling? RicOct 08 2019 7:58am Yes Ric! it can be that you are weaker than the average girl! Nowadays there is mostly no difference in strength level between men and girls. It appear even be that girls today often stronger than men. If they start workout they can become more than twice as strong. If they were stronger before they started workout, they are quickly 3 times stronger than men! I think for such girls you are no match! If you had a match with a average girl it can be you have a small chance! SinaOct 08 2019 10:40pm Sina, If I was matched against an untrained girl of similar weight to me in a wrestling competition what would be the likely outcome? RicOct 14 2019 1:47pm It‘s hard to say Ric but i think she can defeating you. It‘s not uncommon today! But today i think the chance is higher that you would meet a girl who workout! Against her you will most likely loose! Sina Oct 16 2019 2:55pm Sina It's awesome to think that an untrained girl of similar weight to me could actually defeat me in a wrestling contest. If the girl's mother was watching her fighting me and defeating me what would she be thinking? RicOct 21 2019 10:19am Ric, it depends on the reason of the wrestling match! If she defends herself and defeating you her mother would proud and relaxed that her young daugther can defeat a grown men! If it is in reason of a official contest she would be proud! If her daugther beat you up simply for fun i hope she would help you and prevent that her daugther will do it again! Sina Oct 21 2019 12:57pm Sina. Do you think there are girls who would get a kick out of beating me up for fun? Are there girls who pose a physical threat to weak men? RicOct 21 2019 3:21pm Ric, there are some girls who are not only stronger, they are more aggressive too. It can be that such a girl would beat you up, simply because she can do! Sina Oct 21 2019 9:37pm Sina I think you are right. The 14 year old girl who took me on at wrestling only did so because she knew she could beat me and wanted to impress her friends. She was a tomboy and a bit of a bully and got a big kick out of forcing me to submit. I didn’t stand a chance against her. RicNov 03 2019 12:21am Ric, i’m sure you was cowed, right? Do you think you have a chance today against such a girl? SinaNov 03 2019 11:10am Sina, I was cowed by this girl. She boasted to everyone how easy it was to beat me. I think I would have a chance against an untrained girl of the same weight as me or lighter. RicNov 05 2019 11:37pm Ric, i think you are completely right with this! In my friend circle there are many men like you and they are clear weaker than trained girls like me. I have the feeling today it is ok for many men that they are smaller with more narrow shoulders than many girls who workout and are twice as strong or even more than this men! I could imagine that in some years it would be normal that men are much weaker than girls. I see more and more often men who have more and more smaller muscles than many girls. No wonder that they are much weaker than girls! Sina Nov 06 2019 5:22am Ric, how we talked about, if the number of posts finished, let us change to www.likelike.com/pollcommentary/4108 SinaNov 09 2019 4:34am Add a comment: Vote Results |
